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'Obama's America' draws conclusions without any facts

Reeling It In

Posted: September 19, 2012 - 3:55pm  |  Updated: September 20, 2012 - 8:25am
This publicity image released by Rocky Mountain Pictures, shows an undated film clip of director, Dinesh D'Souza, interviewing George Obama in "2016: Obama's America."  Despite the unconventional release of "2016: Obama's America," the movie is among the most successful political documentaries of all time and it doesn't show signs of cooling down ahead of the presidential election. (AP Photo/Rocky Mountain Pictures)  AP
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This publicity image released by Rocky Mountain Pictures, shows an undated film clip of director, Dinesh D'Souza, interviewing George Obama in "2016: Obama's America." Despite the unconventional release of "2016: Obama's America," the movie is among the most successful political documentaries of all time and it doesn't show signs of cooling down ahead of the presidential election. (AP Photo/Rocky Mountain Pictures)

“2016: Obama’s America”

Obama’s America Foundation

1 hour, 27 minutes

 

Dinesh D’Souza is a hack. I know, there are some out there that are saying, “What? No! He’s a muckraking crusader! He’s the Right’s answer to Michael Moore!”

Of course, there are more of you saying, “Who the heck is Dinesh D’Souza?” — which is as it should be. The director and writer of the recent Barack Obama “documentary,” “2016: Obama’s America” deserves nothing less than to return to the doldrums of obscurity from whence he came.

Full disclosure: I am a Barack Obama fan. I voted for him once and will likely do so again. I am perfectly primed to disagree with a negative exposé on the President. My criticism, however, has nothing to do with my politics. On the merits of the movie alone, as a piece of documentary filmmaking, “2016: Obama’s America” is just plain terrible.

D’Souza clearly thinks of himself as a counterpart to Michael Moore. Not only is he the writer/director, but he’s also the star. The film starts out with some background. D’Souza, like Obama, is the child of immigrants and of similar age and comparable background. He shows this, I imagine, to establish his bona fides, that our Dinesh is qualified to dissect Barack Obama because, but for the vagaries of fate, he could have been Barack Obama. D’Souza then proceeds to outline Obama’s background, crushing the birther movement in one fell swoop by announcing “Barack Obama Jr. was born on August 4, 1961, in a hospital in Honolulu, Hawaii.” Take that, Donald Trump!

The first third of the film is actually pretty interesting, if still pretty hacky. D’Souza manages to explain who Obama’s father was, what his relationship to Obama’s mother was, and how and why he was in the country. He establishes clearly how young Obama came to idolize an absent father, over the less-than-stable father that the boy’s mother had chosen as a replacement. D’Souza then goes on to show, how crushed an older Obama was to learn that the untarnished father he believed he had was actually just a man after all, and a fairly flawed man at that. D’Souza decently illustrates a whole swath of Barack Obama’s childhood, mostly because he’s quoting directly from Barack Obama’s own memoirs, “Dreams From My Father.”

The first part of the movie is tolerable, even interesting at times, if annoyingly over-produced. It is in the middle part of the movie that things really start to go awry. It is here that D’Souza’s analysis turns from an exploration for truth into a high-school understanding of pop psychology. Because Barack Obama at one time put his absent father on a pedestal, he must secretly wish to somehow become that father, or at least fulfill the potential that father possessed.

What potential is that? To bring down colonial empires. To destroy America’s power in the world, and to spread Socialism, maybe even ... gasp! ... Communism! Why, exactly, are we to believe that this is Obama’s plan? Your guess is as good as mine. Without a shred of actual evidence, D’Souza proceeds to travel the globe, meeting with people who have either tenuous connections to the president, or with fringe people who simply disagree with his policies. Interviews consist of leading questions, half-answers, and even outright disagreement, to which D’Souza nods knowingly, as though pieces of a puzzle are all falling into place.

The problem is that there are no pieces — there doesn’t even appear to be a puzzle. At one point, D’Souza interviews a man in Africa who may well have been one of Barack Obama Sr.’s best friends. The old man never knew the president, but he obviously knew and loved the father, a man who, it’s been established, was somewhat of a radical. The old man also clearly loves Obama, which is not a surprise considering our president is one of the most popular people in the world. When asked if he thought Barack Sr. would be proud of Barack Jr., the old man nods enthusiastically. D’Souza nods knowingly.

This is the type of damning evidence the director has to offer. Dinesh D’Souza has taken a few well-known facts about Obama — that he grew up without his father and spent much of his childhood abroad — added some emotional elements from the President’s own words, and has drawn wildly illogical conclusions. I can do that, too. Let’s see ... Obama is a lawyer. He lived in Chicago. He smokes. Conclusion: Barack Obama is a secret member of the mafia. The health care law will inevitably lead to greater control of public health, concluding with the complete illegalization of tobacco. At which point, Barack Obama will stand to make millions, maybe even billions, as a cigarette bootlegger.

Or, if that doesn’t make sense, how about this: Obama is rich. He grew up without his father. He fought for justice (lawyer again.) Obviously, he’s a super-hero. He may even actually be Batman, but I can’t be 100 percent sure.

By the end of the film things have completely gone off the rails. D’Souza, erroneously believing he’s got us on the hook with his fanciful theories, spins a nightmare scenario of Obama’s next term. Choking debt leads to a destroyed economy. Muslim-friendly foreign policy leads to the crushing of Israel by the United States of Islam. The film ends with a frightened little boy reading a history book that list the American Era as ending in 2016.

Wow. I can imagine what some of my friends on the Right are probably thinking at this point. Michael Moore does the same thing and gets nominated for an Oscar. No, he doesn’t. Yes, Moore is biased. And yes, he spins the facts to make the conclusions come out the way he wants. But he starts with facts. Meticulously researched facts. Massaged conclusions, yes, but built on real data, not vague psychological speculation. And as a director, Moore knows what he’s doing. He builds tension, uses graphics judiciously, and manages to let people swing using their own words. Sometimes he goes too far — ambushing an obviously diminished Charleton Heston at his home to harass him about the NRA was wrong, but usually he’s effective.

Purely as a filmmaker, D’Souza doesn’t know when to quit. His graphics are non-stop and overwhelming. Each interview seems as if it were conducted using multiple cameras from a dozen angles. At three separate points D’Souza actually “phones in” the interview, the result being we see both sides of the conversation — the interviewee on one phone and D’Souza on another, nodding knowingly. Why?

“2016: Obama’s America” is the worst kind of political propaganda because it preys on people who are disposed to be fearful about the direction of our country. And it does so without any solid basis. D’Souza hopes that he can fire up the faithful with slick graphics and convoluted theories, and is betting on the fact that they will overlook the obvious lack of any real research. He trots out worn-out old bogeymen like Rev. Jeremiah Wright and that Weather Underground guy, but he never actually uncovers anything of substance about the president himself. This makes “2016” about as hollow as D’Souza himself.

Grade: D-

“2016: Obama’s America” is rated PG for some scary music and frightening folderol.

 

Chris Jenness is a freelance graphic designer, artist and movie buff who lives in Nikiski.

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soldotna54
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soldotna54 09/23/12 - 03:46 am
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Again with the distorted quotes

Zechariah 14 says the nations who ATTACK Israel. So if America does not do Israels attacking for them on Iran then we are attacking Israel ? Seems to me It is the Republicans who want us to start WW3 . And why should we let Netan Yahoo goad us into invading Iran for him. Also, the first part of Zechariah 14:2 " I will gather all the nations to Jerusalem to fight against it; the city will be captured, the houses ransacked, and the women raped. Half of the city will go into exile, but the rest of the people will not be taken from the city." Maybe Israel is bringing this upon themselves .

Not to mention that this already happened to Israel , so It is a fulfilled prophecy .

Romney will start a war and because Mormons are conscientious objectors they will not even fight in it. He will send our sons and daughters to die for his unjust cause.

No thank you .

Watchman on the Wall
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Watchman on the Wall 09/23/12 - 09:43 am
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soldotna54 very good

Glad to see you read Zachariah, but you have missed the main point of scripture. It's not Israel that cause all nations to attack Israel and desire to control Gods Holy City of Jerusalem, It's God himself that will draw every nation to Israel for their judgement for the way they have treated the Jews, Israeli people Gods chosen people and wanted to divide up his, Gods Land and control Gods chosen Holy City, Jerusalem, NOT THE JEWS.
As God promised Abraham, the founding father of the Jewish nation which God picked, not for anything Abram had done, but all in accord with Gods great plans, God told Abram that he would bless those that bless him, and curse those that curse him. This means what you do to the Jews is what God shall do to you.
America has for many years forced the Jews to give up their land to those that are not a people, nation, as the PLO claim to be and for what? Answer: a desire to control ALL of what God said was his chosen people, land and Holy city.
History shows that every time America forces Israel into doing what Gods told the Jews not to do with their godless neighbors, God brings judgements against America, EVERY TIME. We want Israel to give up their land and homes? God will cause Americans to give up their homes and land to godless foriegners as well. Now tell me that this is not the reality of whats happening to America as we type?
America is one of the nations that God will judge for OUR treatment of the Jewish nation PERIOD.
It's not just Obama, it's many presidents both Dems & Repubs, this goes back many years ever since Israels regathering in 1948 unto their Land which True History shows was and is really their eternal promised posetion from God. Yes we do support Israel to a degree, but it's not a pure of heart support, but a wicked desire to control what God says is his and Gods eternal plans for his possestions, and there in lies the problem, man directed by evil forces that want to control and do away with any remembrance of Gods eternal promises, replacing them with lies and false hope.

So please tell me again just who it is that is distorting quotes of exactly what Gods word says will come to pass for the End of the Age or Era of time, not End of the World.

Yahweh and Yeshua are Greater!

Watchman on the Wall
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Watchman on the Wall 09/23/12 - 10:15 am
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Lets recap what Chris Jennes said

Chris said that the movie has absolutely no solid basis or proof to determine who Obama was. Also Chris says that this is the worst kind of political propaganda to cause fear of where america is headed. REALLY?
Lets do something here folks. Lets forget about all the wiped out history past of who Obama was before he became OUR President, OK?
So Obama's past is removed from the topic of who Obama was and who he is now and see what we can determine about this chosen ones Dream Act for ushering in a New World Order. MANY have claimed he would do and everyone that has a grasp of reality can see he is doing exactly that, working towards removal of OUR Soverign Rights for a Global Union of One, and to accomplish his goals he must change OUR Fundamental rights and replace OUR Hope in Gods promises for all mankind and America.
At every turn Obama has and is doing exactly what he was chosen to do, change America into a nation of Global citizens that are totally dependant on Mans Governments totally void of the truth or knowledge and hope in Gods eternal promises.

Hypocricy of Demorcacy
Thats what we see now world wide as America pushesnations into civil wars while other nations such as Arabs are allowed to rule by Monacrh's with no freedoms for any that may disagree. The very same is becoming true in America with the decay of OUR Sovering rights at every turn.
What amazes me is the continual lies being spread of Obama's greatness and hope to believe in when reality of true facts about OUR natins total collapse at an any minute time frame.
As i have said before if it's alright with you i'll stick with the Rebublic and the right to me afforded by God, not Obama.
But if i'm right, this will not be an exceptable choice on my part and those that wish to force everyone into their desired One World Global Order. This FALSE RELIGION of a new hope and fundamental change to believe in is coming to America just as it is spreading world wide and if Gods word is correct, as it always is it will end with a One World Order and total control of everyone and everything and only UNION MEMBERS CAN SURVIVE.
Revelation 13; shows this OWO and it's not ment as a fear tactic, but as a warnbing sign given out of love so people can see whats coming and prepare for it's arrival.
If i was still a Democrate believing the continual lies of how things are getting better, when a blind man can see differant i too would be scared and try to deny reality and truth, which i did for many years before i saw the light and truth of reality to what Gods word says is coming Globally for the End of the Age which we are now in.
But believe who and what you wish to under OUR freedoms, but realize that it's always eazier to believe a lie rather than the truth, because people don't want to research out truth, so they blindly accept lies ment to lead them off the cliff.

Please forget Obama's past before he became President, but remember his past and present promises for America since becoming President and what he has really done and doing.
What is Obama doing? He is sinking OUR Nation into a state of hopelessness with no fundamentals or morals for any of Gods commands for mankind all for his desired One World Order, PERIOD.

Yahweh and Yeshau are Greater by the way!

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Allen 09/23/12 - 02:50 pm
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Good Grief

Seafarer, you don't need to flee the Peninsula, most people are good people, hard working and politically moderate, but whenever the word "Obama" is spoken or written the crackpots among us crawl out of the wood work and go I-N-S-A-N-E. And they have no insight into how crazy and racist they sound to everyone else.

My problem with 2016: Obama’s America, which I admit I have not seen yet, is that it stuck around at the Kambe for weeks, even though it never seemed like there was anyone at the theater when it was showing. I know the Regal Cinema chain owners are supporters of right wing politics/politicians, but good grief, could the Kambe show some good movies that adults could watch for a change? And spare us the propaganda and the fake "charity" Foundation for a Better Life (get a tax writeoff and do nothing actually useful).

Watchman on the Wall
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Watchman on the Wall 09/23/12 - 07:58 pm
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It's Bush's Fault

All i can say about my personal comments about Obama is that they are 99.99% factual and that it's Bush's fault not mine. If he, Bush would have done more to help His cousin Sarah Palin instead of his cousin Obama then we would not be talking about the anointed one, your chosen messiah for all the world, now would we?
Truthfully now tell me, do you really believe all the lies your spreading about his greatness, the messiah, that he only means to do good and help others?
This man has only hurt the poor and caused millions more into a total dependance on the govt. With 47 million people on food stamps with no desire to get off them because they are hooked on the Freebees passed out by the Pusher Man.
We are in some major troubles with your chosen messiah and his False religion of fundamental hope and change to the cliff of total despare.
As far as a racial thing, i certainly hope your not accusing me a black, American Indian, irishman of being a racist are you?
If i'm racist it is against Obama's 50% white blood or possibly his 43% Bedioun Arab blood, but not against his 7% wannabe black blood that was used to sucker people of color into his lies and hopelessness from which they have sunk even deeper down the poverty chain by thinking Obama is black and cares about his Brothersssssssssssss. Obama could care less about any American.
But make no mistake he cares about his Arab Brotherssssssssss, and will do anything his Islamic kin wants him to do even to the point of kissing their rings and bowing so low he could also kiss their feet while down there. And this is Americas President and ruler of the use to be most powerful Free Nation ever on earth?
Not a racist, but not a simple minded fool either that would believe a lie rather than the truth and continue to try and sucker people to continue to believe it even though it continue's to slap us in the face daily with the reality of his Dream Acts.
Hopefully you'll have time to change your mind before it's to late and try to help others prepare for coming Global troubles rather than continue to try & deceive them that everything AOK.

Yahweh and Yeshau are Greater by the way!

leewaytooo
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leewaytooo 09/24/12 - 12:33 am
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where were the [filtered word] when

where were the [filtered word] when the shrub was signing off on trillions of debt?????

[filtered word] the party of dine and dash and warmongering...

[filtered word] have no probs with running up the debt... just

dont you do it to pay for their wars and unfunded

programs.

[filtered word] the party of lies, liars and hypocrites..

shrub...mccain...pale.n.......myth....ryan boy...

none can tell the truth and all are imbeciles...

Sam Von Pufendorf
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Sam Von Pufendorf 09/24/12 - 04:48 am
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As indicated by the comments

As indicated by the comments on this blog, most of us support a candidate in much the same fashion as we support our favorite sports team. We base an opinion on emotion and very few supported hard facts. We fail to take the time to sift through the spin and find the true facts.
We use trivial non-issues to support or defame a candidate, but use very little actual supported facts. Personal attacks seem to play a larger roll in how we elect our government than actual and true government concerns.
Bloggers sink to juvenile behavior in retorting each other. Name calling, false claims and in some instances pure anger. They seem to reflect the campaign itself!
One simple fact is that neither party is willing to work with the other to solve some very tough issues. A very wise man once told me: "God is a funny guy! He gives us all two ears and only one mouth ... but everyone talks and no one listens."
In the end, emotional decisions will be what brings us to a grinding halt. Think about it, which (if either) candidate has presented a true and detailed path forward?

Seafarer
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Seafarer 09/24/12 - 07:36 am
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Thanks For The Travel Tips!

But I think I'll stay in my birthplace of Alaska. I plan to get back to where fishing is fishing and means big boats and big men and a wonderful way of life. Want me gone sooner? Send money! LOL!

I'm sick of River Rats and their incessant whining. "Gimmee Gimmee I want I want I want! Then I'll go out of Alaska for the Winter and spend my money at home!" What a bunch of entitled creeps. And your KRSA is a joke and as corrupt as any I have seen in my 59 years in Alaska.

Watchman on the Wall
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Watchman on the Wall 09/24/12 - 08:57 am
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leewaytoo, Sam and Seafarer

leewaytoo, When the shrub/bush gave his cousin Obama the Presidential gift that keeps on giving in the form of $700 Billion dollars as a bailout for crooks, it totally discussted me and still does.
As i have said before this is a FAMILY AFFAIR our Government and TRUE HISTORY shows their ties and FAMILY TIES WORLD WIDE.
It makes no differance who is in the Big House, they all have the same Dream which OUR currancy shows on the back.
IT SAYS THIS: NOVUS ORDO SECLORUM Translation to Englase/English NEW ORDER SECULAR/WORLD

It was not Bush or cousin Obama that put that writing on OUR currancy, but it is BOTH of them and the rest of their Global Family that are pushing it's arrival. I trust no party but do vote for these less evil which is real hard many times, but i still vote.

Sam Very Good your comments and abservation of people not doing research about things mentioned by others to whether there may be some truth or not. People mainly just want things to be Black or White with out any facts applied or needed no matter what the subject, no pun intended here.
But many of them are probably like me and type single letters as they type their opinions and lack the ability to use this tool to it's fullest for facts. Yes there are alot of False facts on here, but there are also alot of true facts that people can use to help make inteligent choices if only they would.
But thats what many control freaks want people to be like, uninformed with the truth and controled by the lies even to the point of death. I try to give true facts from my personal research as an INDEPENDANT DEMOPUBLICAN for the purpose of getting people to look and see if what they believe is really true or some fabricated lie that keeps rolling on due to peoples unwillingness to learn the truth. Thanks for your comments on reality here.

Seafarer I understand your anger to those that use Alaska then go south every winter as in OUT OF STATE GUIDES which belong to the KRSA. They have ruined their chosen states so they made the Rush North to Alaska to ruin OURS.
The thing is that ALL of us that choose to live and stay here year round are suffering from this Rape and Plundering of OUR Natural Resources and we can't seem to stop it.
It's gonna get much worse with the gimme, gimme SHEEPLE and they will continue to take every single thing they can for themselves out of greed due to the mind set promoted by Government. I can see them skipping along their merry way singing their United song, 'THE WORLD OWES ME A LIVING.' Very soon it'll just be us hard core Alaskans left to fend for OURSELVES and others we love and trust to do the same to us, VERY SOON. So keep stroking and remember contrary to popular belief Jesus is the only way out of this HAVE IT YOUR WAY mess that we see coming Globally that will destroy 2/3rds of all life on earth when done for their desired Utopia under mankinds rule of law.

Yahweh and Yeshua are Greater by the way!

gfds98765
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gfds98765 09/24/12 - 12:44 pm
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Don’t shut down the Clarion by

Don’t shut down the Clarion by using “ignore” buttons. These are the opinions of the members of YOUR community. The rich & the poor, the young & the old, the left & the right, the workers & the takers; the cowboys that live in your town. When you need your daily dose of those worshipful dictators directives you can go to ‘media matters’, ‘open society’, and the ‘center for American Progress.’ George Soros has funded these for you. That happy rascally Nazi collaborator.
No you're right, use the ignore button and you can ignore the story (in his own autobiography) about how he loved being an enforcer for the Nazis against his own race.

lkpomn912
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lkpomn912 09/24/12 - 02:56 pm
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FDR’s New Deal in reverse.

What if the RepubliCats. Decide to copy this socialist strategy from the DemoCats. And take over the country. What then lieway2? They might make YOU do all the work, pay all the taxes, and give up all your assets like FDR’s New Deal in reverse. Ouch. CATastrophy if the tables are turned.

Still there is noone saying why they r voting for BHO. It’s the free money isn’t it?
It’s that BHO has run up the debt THREE TIMES HIGHER than the ‘shrub’ and ESCALATED the war that kills Americans. DemoCats have joined the RepubliCats.
Twice as many soldiers have died in Afghanistan under BHO than the shrub. Where is code pink? where is YOUR outrage?

lkpomn912
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lkpomn912 09/24/12 - 03:08 pm
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don't like 2016 movie, try reading classics

IF you don’t want current events like 2016 movie, try reading some oldies but goodies, that will cause you 'PAWS' to think.

‘Brave New World’ by Aldous Huxley

'Anthem' by Ayn Rand

‘1984’ by George Orwell

‘Fahrenheit 451’ by Ray Bradbury

‘Animal Farm’ by George Orwell

( all animals are equal, but some animals are more equal than others) especially the cats.

Watchman on the Wall
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Watchman on the Wall 09/24/12 - 03:23 pm
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OBAMA'S PROMISES DRAW 2012 CONCLUSIONS

Please forgive me in advance here with my conclusions which were drawn due to what Obama is now saying as he campaigns rather than runs the country.
Obama has said as of late that from the beginning of his campaign that it's impossible for anyone to fix America in just 1 term and thats why he is running again.
REALLY? What happened to your promise and assurance back in 2009 to the American people that if you did not accomplish your promises that you did not deserve a second term and would in fact be a 1 term President, Mr President??

It was flowing downhill at a rapid pace in 08,09,10,11 and now 2012, but it does amaze me how soon you forget your promise of being a 1 term Prez. and want to continue to sucker America into this Hopeless change to believe in of yours which is no differant from the last few Presidents we have had.
KEEP YOUR PROMISE MR PRESIDENT, KEEP YOUR PROMISE OF ONE TERM, PLEASE, IT'S OUR ONLY HOPE.
My conclusion is don't vote for Obama in 2012 as we can't trust him at his word, then or now and probably will not make it till 2016 if he is elected again. That is if we make it till the election in 2012 under this GR8 Diveder in Chef and his selling/giving away of AMERICA.

WHAT A MESS THIS CHOSEN ONE HAS US IN WITH HIS HOPELESS HOPE FOR EVERYONE.

soldotna54
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soldotna54 09/24/12 - 03:20 pm
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Ok I'll bite kpomn912

I am voting for Obama because, but not limited to the following:
He is for Healthcare for All Americans.
He stop the economic blood letting and has turned the economy around to the positive. My stocks are much higher than under the previous president.
He is realistic in his rhetoric , does not make all kinds of wild statements. Does not promise the moon.
Has delivered on his vision as much as the House would allow.
His foreign policy is real and not saber rattling nor threatening. He is trying his best to keep us out of World War III.
His vision is for the average person , does not sacrifice them so the wealthy can continue to prosper . As they are the only group who has.
He actually understands what it mean to be President of every American , not just christians, or whites or blacks or muslims or males, etc, but every single person. All races creeds and religions and sex.
He knows education is what will make America competitive in the world market .
He knows we need an energy policy for the 21st century and beyond, fossil fuels are limited .
He is intelligent and can pick the best people for the job.
Well, I can go on but nothing will convince you or anyone.
Think People , think.
Romney just said everyone has healthcare because they can go to the emergency room. seriously? that his answer?

And stop with the Obama is a muslim, not born in America, etc. Really are you that childish ? Even if he was a muslim , so what. Romney states proudly that he is a Mormon . JFK was a Catholic , the early founding fathers were Agnostic or Deists at best . They were not fundamental christians.

Watchman on the Wall
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Watchman on the Wall 09/24/12 - 04:39 pm
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Fine Have it your way!!

Soldotna 54 you have convinced me that there is no hope what so ever in helping those like you who are blinded by the god of this present evil world. No hope in helping them to see the light of reality and the fight against all those that would do away with ALL REMEMBERANCES OF GOD AND HIS PROMISES as well as his chosen people.
The god of this world has rulers and principalities in high places of government and Obama along with Bush, Clinton Carter for starters are his servants to bring forth his desired time of worship of Satan and his chosen one all aided by his False prophit which rise out of the old Roman empire.

Good luck with your dreams and my prayers for you and those blinded like you to someday see the truth and be saved from the wrath to come against people like Obama, or Romney and their followers in their false religion of lies and deception in order to destroy, not help anyone rich or poor unto salvation found only in Gods promises of fundamental change giving a true hope to believe in found in Christ alone.

You and a few others remind me of the scripture in Revelation that says that they repented not of their sins and cried for the mountains to fall on them and kill them so they would not have to look on the Lord that was bringing global judgement against all that worshiped the False god and followed his Fals prophit's commands to worship satan and receive his Union ID number.
They were so hard headed that they cried for the mountains to fall on them and kill them for believing in a lie of hopeless Religion of men, instead of accepting God.
Simply amazing the extent some go to to avoid the truth isn't it??

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freedomlibertytruth 09/24/12 - 05:26 pm
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Spit out the hook strawman, ‘adult’ lies stop chats

I'll help with this one 'flaming cat'.

Strawman false argument. Casting baited insults about things that were never said. Nice try but it only works on the uninformed.
Adult lies stop all discussion. However I will address your strawman, here it is:

Soldotna54 wrote: “”And stop with the Obama is a muslim, not born in America, etc. Really are you that childish ? Even if he was a muslim , so what.””

Soldotna54 You know that was never said by anyone, was it? Everyone reading the comments knows that it was not said. So why do you so boldly throw it out? It's called a strawman, a false argument. Sadly you must be unaware of the true religious doctrine of BHO’s Chicago church and Reverend Jeremiah Wright. Or you wouldn’t present a ridiculous strawman like muslimhood.

Rev. Wright has been BHO’s pastor for 20 years in the Trinity United Church of Christ on Chicago’s south side. Their theology is based on Christianity that is incorporated with “Black Liberation Theology”. This can be researched by reading James Hal Cones book by the same name. Cone also wrote ‘Black Theology and Black Power’. I have read them, and listened to some of their lectures, years ago. Their website and pamphlets are clear about their beliefs.

It explains Christianity as a matter of liberation here and now, rather than in an afterlife. Louis Farrakhan Muhammad, Sr. and his Nation of Islam also embrace Cones philosophy. Both organizations state that ‘the white man is the oppressor.’ ‘White is the devil.’ **It is written in Cones books. Barack Hussein Obama was an active participant of this religious philosophy for two decades.

Your false references to his Muslim relatives, and time spend in Muslim countries and schools may have blinded you to his actual beliefs and practices. He may have fooled a simple (almost childish) minded liberal voter to believe he is for ‘everyone.’ It is a carefully cultivated mask.

However you have to listen to Farrakhan and Wright and read Cones books to understand and acknowledge their full commitment to Black Power. They also support ‘Brown Liberation Theology’ and have made appeals to the Hispanic countries.

Having presented this information in a tiny simplistic form, your liberal LIE is a distraction that you are either fully aware of, or your own talking points are way over your head.

( By the way, your rich basket of stocks have gone up because of unfunded borrowing and quantitative easing which means printing paper money that has nothing to back it up. It is a means of printing fake monopoly-money and flooding the market to pretend to inflate it, at least until the election is over and BHO is in charge again. The rest of your points are just too comical to bother with.)

soldotna54
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soldotna54 09/24/12 - 06:06 pm
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Ha ha ha ha

I am getting a real chuckle now !

soldotna54
119
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soldotna54 09/24/12 - 06:06 pm
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Ha ha ha ha

I am getting a real chuckle now !

gfds98765
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gfds98765 09/24/12 - 06:20 pm
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Bill and Hillary Clinton tried to warn you.

Bill and Hillary Clinton tried to warn you. “he’s playing the race card.” Obama was a ‘senior lecturer’ of these law courses at the University of Chicago.

1. Due process and equal protection areas of constitutional law. Obama’s courses chronicled the failure of liberal policies and court-led efforts at social change for blacks.

2. Voting rights class tracing evolution of election laws, from the disenfranchisement of blacks to campaign financing.

3. Current Issues in racism and the law.

4. Institutional racism in American Society.

This is the American Constitutional law that he taught for 12 years. Thank heavens he is looking out for the brown, yellow, white, gray, and red people, “ all the American races and creeds.”

analaskancitizen
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analaskancitizen 09/24/12 - 07:55 pm
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Explain the points

Unlike the rest of the above comments, this is off topic. How do the points (listed on the left side) get figured? Is it good to have more or less? (golf or bowling). Who assigns them? Thanks in advance for the answer.

freedomlibertytruth
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freedomlibertytruth 09/24/12 - 10:33 pm
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Why are these groups SILENT? 1,369 U.S. troops dead.

Why are these groups SILENT? 1,369 U.S. troops dead. Is it because Democrats control the White House & Congress.

1,369 US troops died in Iraq and Afghanistan since the start of 2009, the month Obama became president. On Oct. 2, 2002, State Senator Obama spoke at an anti-war rally, saying, ““I don’t oppose all wars. … What I am opposed to is a dumb war.”” So in his first year in office, President Obama escalated the U.S. troop presence in Afghanistan from a little more than 30,000 to almost 100,000 troops – tripling the troop numbers. Only 33,000 have now returned.

This from the first president to call an existing war “stupid” and to call for “an end to the mindset that leads to war.”

Where are the Anti-WAR rallies? Why are these groups SILENT!!!

• America First Committee
• American League Against War and Fascism
• American Peace Mobilization
• A.N.S.W.E.R. (also known as International ANSWER and ANSWER Coalition)
• Another Mother For Peace
• Anti-War Committee
• Antiwar.com
• Baring Witness
• Campus Antiwar Network
• Campaign for Liberty
• Committee for Nonviolent Revolution
• Center on Conscience & War
• Central Committee for Conscientious Objectors
• The Council for National Interest
• Code Pink: Women for Peace
• Common Dreams
• Coffee Strong
• ChildVoice International
• GI Rights Network
• Gold Star Families for Peace
• Iraq Veterans Against the War
• Iraq Peace Action Coalition
• LewRockwell.com
• Long Island Alliance for Peaceful Alternatives
• Military Families Speak Out
• National War Tax Resistance Coordinating Committee
• Nevada Shakespeare Company
• Not in Our Name
• Peace Action
• Port Militarization Resistance
• September Eleventh Families for Peaceful Tomorrows
• Student Nonviolent Coordinating Committee
• Students for a Democratic Society
• The World Can't Wait
• Troops Out Now Coalition
• United for Peace and Justice
• Veterans for Peace
• Vietnam Veterans Against the War
• War Resisters League

Why are they silent. Where are the PROTESTS.

leewaytooo
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leewaytooo 09/25/12 - 02:11 am
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"myth has a wallet like

"myth has a wallet like thurston howell, and talks like gilligan."

[filtered word] the party of lies, liars and hypocrites.

spwright
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spwright 09/25/12 - 09:27 am
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American Apathy

Tue. 9/25/12

Your purpose for your message is to Bash President Obama
but in that statement you have made a serious mistake to include American Veterans & Gold Star Mothers & Blue Star Mothers. You couldn't be farther from the Truth.

ONLY Our Military & Their Families, ONLY Our Veterans & Their Families are fighting this War.

The Rest of America is "At the Mall" & could care less about the War in Afghanistan. Don't believe that is True ?
Just mention the word Afghanistan & witness how fast people turn & walk away. They don't want to hear it.

The Apathy of the American People is a embrassment.

SPW "Airborne"

Watchman on the Wall
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Watchman on the Wall 09/25/12 - 09:34 am
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JUST BUMPS IN THE ROAD

EVERY AMERICAN is just a BUMP IN THE ROAD for this chosen messiah of men. He will step on every one of OUR heads to get his Dream Act brought to fruition, Dem, Repubs, Black, White, Brown, Red, Yellow, or Gray, no one is amune to this Ancient desire for a World Order ruled by Satans man, all of which is the exact oppistie of Gods eternal plans for Christs Reign or Rightiousness.

freedomlibertytruth
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freedomlibertytruth 09/26/12 - 10:09 pm
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social security - work contributions and war protests

Spwright: The worker may get social security payments at retirement age based on their work contributions. Sounds solid, but it isn’t. I also don’t think that you have a “social disorder.” I think that you are a concerned citizen, but that these National issues are not solved with microscopic sound bites, and three syllable slogans.

However, If you believe that people are entitled to receive $500,000 to $750,000 in free money after you are 62 years old, when you know for a fact that you did not pay that much in FICA in your entire working lifetime. You are not being fiscally honest. After you receive all that you paid in, with a little interest, the rest of your paycheck is ENTITLEMENT. Who is providing the extra money that you receive?

What if SS only gave you the amount of money you paid into FICA, and perhaps the 1% that we are getting in our savings accounts, how much of a check would you really get each month. When would your money run out?

PLUS Social Security has a ‘special rule’; if you have worked for only ONE & ONE-HALF YEARS, benefits can be paid to your children and your spouse (who is caring for your children). Where is that money coming from? They barely put “One Dime” into the program.

Also what about the 8 million people receiving SS disability insurance, for being unable to work. Who’s paying for their share of the entitlement? Where is that money coming from.

It is a ponzi scheme. Starting in 1935 during the Great Depression. But they started with a Zero ($0.00) SS balance. So who paid for those first entitlements? Where did the first money come from?

The money YOU paid in while you were employed, has already been paid out. You are now receiving the FICA money that workers ‘today’ are paying the government.

In 1940: 42 workers were paying in for every one retiree. Lots of cash, program looks good. People who paid IN only about $2,000 were receiving $20,000 or more in lifetime payments. Glorious, wonderful Social Security paychecks, halleluiah.

In 1950: 16 workers were paying for every one retiree. The average life expectancy was 68 years.

By 1960: there were 5 workers paying in for every one retiree.

Now 2012: there are only 3 workers for every Social Security recipient, and the number will continue to fall. While the age of life expectancy has risen to 78 years.

To compensate for this falling number of employed contributors to FICA, the original Payroll tax rate for Social Security in 1940 was only 2%, it has risen to 15% percent. Funny how little tiny payments like that have to get blown up, to keep up.

The SS system is Not like your savings account. It was Never meant to be, by intentional design. The more money you make and pay in, the less you get back. Although the higher income payer will still get a slightly higher payment, it is not a fairly calculated return. High Income payers receive about 20%, low income payers receive about 45%. Jo Barnhard, a former Social Security Commissioner spoke on this issue.

And by the way, I am relieved that I am not the only person who is angry, that everyone who protested Americans dying in war under a Republican president, are cheering the war under a Democratic president. Americans are still dying. Why they are not STILL protesting, is proof of the falsity of their earlier ‘politically motivated’ fake anti-war riots.

Stop the WAR. Stop the Spending. Stop entitlements to the world.
Perhaps, I agree with you spwright, no one else cares, other than how it affects their ‘sides’ chances at the election booth.
Well, reap what you sow. Little Red hen and her bread. The ant and the grasshopper. etc. perhaps we can do little more, than to 'tend to our own knitting', & 'look to our own backyards'. Thank you spwright for your military service to your country, and thanks to all Americans who have served their country in so many varied and important ways.

lkpomn912
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lkpomn912 09/26/12 - 05:06 pm
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Spwright The message is to BASH and EXPOSE the

Spwright The message is to BASH and EXPOSE the supporters of bho, who ignore our troops deaths, when it does not advance their cause. They don’t give a rats butt how many are killed, until a “”republican lie liar hypocrite”” gets back in office, then watch them scream. “MURDERER.”
Four years of silence. Romney will not win, and there will be more troops and contractors murdered overseas and they will still remain mute. SILENT.
so when has ABC, NBC, CBS, PBS, CNN, HLN, MSNBC covered your vets protests in the last four years? Those Iraq and Afghan vets that are speaking out are getting the cold shoulder and being shunned by the main stream press. shunned!
STOP THE WARS. Stop it.

bob99507
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bob99507 09/26/12 - 05:36 pm
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freeway 2

If we had freedom from morons leeway would leave the building

leewaytooo
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leewaytooo 09/27/12 - 01:03 am
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"The REPTC is an example of

"The REPTC is an example of what economists call a tax expenditure. Giving producers a 2.2 cent tax credit for each kWh of wind power they generate has exactly the same impact on the budget as would a policy that subjected wind power to the full corporate tax rate and then used the proceeds to give producers a 2.2 cent cash subsidy. The REPTC is only a small part of a vast web of tax expenditures, some 172 of them by one count, that have a total cost to the budget of $1 trillion. That is roughly equal to the entire revenue generated by the individual income tax.

Tax expenditures violate a fundamental principle of tax economics, namely, that, for any given amount of revenue collected, the economic burden is least when the tax base is kept broad and marginal rates are kept low. The corporate profits tax is an especially noxious swamp of exemptions, deductions, and preferences—so much so that the United States, with the highest corporate tax rates in the world, collects less revenue from it than do many countries with lower marginal rates."

END COPORATE WELFARE AND THEN WE CAN TALK....

and the myth says that it is ok that he pays less than
14% because the coporations have already paid taxes,
before he gets his dividends.

lol, the myth is a [filtered word] liar...

leewaytooo
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leewaytooo 09/27/12 - 01:20 am
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"a study that reveals how

"a study that reveals how consistently the NFIB lobbies on issues that favor large corporate interests rather than small-business interests; its thoroughly partisan agenda; and the millions it receives in secret contributions from groups associated with Karl Rove and the Koch Brothers.

Looking at all donations since 1989, the NFIB is ranked third highest on Opensecrets.org's list of political "heavy hitters," based on the percentage of its contributions going to Republican candidates. NFIB's 93 percent is higher than Koch Industries with 90 percent; Exxon Mobil with 86 percent; and the National Rifle Association with 82 percent.

By contrast, small-business owners are not as partisan. In fact, a recent poll showed that 47 percent of small-business owners plan to vote for President Barack Obama, compared to 39 percent who plan to vote for Mitt Romney.

documents that detail NFIB's top executive Dan Danner's compensation package, totaling $743,676 in 2010. "That tells me that there's some big-money interests willing to pay a real big-business corporate salary for the head of this organization," Graves said. "That is not on par with a typical small-business owner's salary. It's a big-business salary."

gfds98765
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gfds98765 09/27/12 - 05:04 pm
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If you can't beat em, Join em

(if you can’t discuss issues and facts with them, join the zombie chanters)

DemonCrats the party of Commie, doper, America killers.

2012 If Romney wins some lefties are going to be really Peed Off.

(If the Socialist wins the destruction of America continues)

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