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Members of Occupy Kenai/Soldotna add their voices Friday night to the Occupy Wall Street movement at the corner of the Kenai Spur Highway and Bridge Access Road in Kenai. The Occupy Wall Street movement is protesting the role followers believe corporations and banks have in government, and the overall distribution of wealth.

Photo: Occupy the Peninsula

Posted: October 29, 2011 - 10:07am  |  Updated: October 29, 2011 - 9:18pm
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RaySouthwell 11/01/11 - 08:53 am

Commendable Idea. The Constitution gives us two alternatives to amend it. (Article V) One is through Congress and the other is a “Convention” of the several States.

The money brokers will not allow Congress to approach the idea and I am fearful a Convention of the States would be co-opted by the money brokers.

It always seems it ends up all about money. Politicians want it for their campaign, the rich want more, the poor want more and the middle class want more.

What would happen if we the people started talking about real wealth, our productive capacity?

I have no hope for the USA. We have allowed our love of money to destroy our true productive capacity.

It is my prayer that Alaska can rise up and out from the economic ashes of the future.

It can happen, if we look at the productive capacity of the people and see money only as a tool for the transfer of goods and services.

AKMaineIac 11/01/11 - 10:13 am

I was going to go. But I had to work.

EWZuber 11/01/11 - 12:38 pm
money and politics

RaySouthwell, here is my concept to get money out of politics;
First, all elections are publicly funded, no corporate or private money. Everyone gets the same level of funding from the government.
Elections for president for instance, would start at the local level. One person from each county or borough would then run at a state level with one winner from each state to compete at a regional level. From each of those regions one candidate would run at the national level.
No need for party affiliations or other divisive distractions, let the best man win.
Elections would no longer be multi-billion dollar affairs so the media would fight against this tooth and nail as they get a huge influx of political money during elections.
Absolutely no gifts allowed. Not $50, nothing. All politicians business is public business. Nothing is behind closed doors.
Once elected the politician can never work in the private sector again. This would practically eliminate the practice of politicians doing big business favors while in office then getting a multi-million job sitting on his can after they leave office. (back door pay-offs)
Consequently we the people would need to step up and take on the role that corporations now play in providing for politicians after they are retired. They would need to be relatively comfortable but not luxurious.
Some may not like that idea but I suspect it would be well worth it if we could get a real representative government out of it. It would be cheap by comparison.
Just look at what we have had to pay lately, trillions, and we still end up with a corrupt corporate run government.

We can deal with all the symptoms of the problem, make all kinds of new laws, whatever, but I suspect nothing fundamentally changes until something like this is implemented.

AKMaineIac 11/01/11 - 01:51 pm
Money and politics

Well... there is that pesky thing called the constitution and individual rights. But who needs those, right?

RaySouthwell 11/02/11 - 05:29 am
Hope for change


Unfortunately, it is too little too late.

It would appear OWS is gaining momentum and there is hope for change. The economic course of the world is disintegrating. My hope is Alaskan people will come together and rebuild.

I am losing hope for that also. We allow division among all of us.

I will go out on a limb and predict what will happen to OWS because it happened to me.

In the 90’s I stood against tyranny. I was an outspoken advocate of the militia. There were articles written about my thoughts and concerns. From my local paper to the New York Times. I was on TV shows and news broadcast. From the Phil Donahue show to NBC/CBS news.

The militia movement spread like wildfire because of the openness. We had thousands in Michigan. Then OKC bombing occurred. The militia disintegrated overnight. The violence in OKC was laid at the feet of the militia. No one wanted to say they had ever been in a militia. Overnight the movement was demonized and gone.

OWS is spreading like wildfire. I keep hearing reports of their unsavory behavior. I hear they are all Marxist. They said all the militias were Racists.

I predict within the next 6 months a tragedy of violence will occur and be laid at the feet of OWS. Most OWS activists will disavow ever attending meetings or protests. Overnight the movement will be demonized and gone.

Our government will not allow any group to rise up and take back our Constitution.

ItGirl 11/03/11 - 12:17 pm
Take Credit Where Credit is Due

How many of you are walking around with a credit card from Bank of Ameria, Chase or JP Morgan....? If you carry revolving credit your feeding them their millions.

How many people finance a car then buy another before the previous is paid off? Your feeding them their millions.

Did you roll all your greedy debt and your mortgage into one to "lower that payment"? Your feeding them their billions..

Americans live way beyond their means and big banking and business are willing to help you do that for a price.

Yes, it's big business greed but imagine living within your means. Simply maintain a "reasonable" house and car payment because those are necessities to provide shelter and transportation to your job. Budgeting the rest to buy groceries and pay for utiltiies. Saving up for those toys you really want, or paying out of pocket for a bit of new furniture. That would bring big bank to a screeching halt.

In any relationship it takes two...rarely is it the fault of one when things go bad...

We have issue with personal responsibility these days.

So, when the bank looks at your pay stub and tells you you pre-qualify for a $350,000 home loan look them in the eye and tell them bugger off. I know what I can afford...

When they offer you a bigger credit limit, don't look at is as status but as a ploy to get your money. Protect yourself.

When someone say you have to dress like this or drive one of those, proudly opt to be responsible not material...

Banks would freak...I think a new protest could begin and you don't even have to stand out in the cold holding a sign.

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