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Aerial wolf control approved

Posted: January 16, 2012 - 7:35pm

The Alaska State Board of Game voted unanimously Monday to approve aerial wolf predator control on the Kenai Peninsula.   

Proposals 35 and 36, which pertain to Game Management Units 15A and 15C respectively, outlined the intensive management plans that the Alaska Department of Fish and Game will use in controlling wolf populations in hopes of increasing the amount of moose in the areas.

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scubaray@aol.com
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scubaray@aol.com 01/17/12 - 01:29 pm
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Aerial wolf control approved

Well, I've exhausted my ability to wait for Cora Campbell to do the right thing for Alaska's wildlife and citizens.

Despite the scientific, F&G Advisory Committee and local community outcry to forego predator control on the Kenai; the BOG has decided to pursue an unnecessary & cruel predator control process.

Everyone knows and agrees the issue is not predation - it is habitat. Further, it is well known that most Alaskans oppose predator control and want wildlife to be available for viewing, not arbitrarily slaughtered.

It is time that Alaska's Department of Fish and Game stops kow-towing to fly-in trophy hunters and their lobbyests and starts doing its job to manage Alaska's wildlife for the benefits of Alaskans.

msjinxie
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msjinxie 01/17/12 - 08:15 pm
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Scubaray said it all

Amen Scubaray! I have for years thought the same thing you speak of, and your so right. We are moving and encroaching into their territories...so we eliminate them for being there? Come on Alaska, I understand it in communities where its life or limb, this is brutal slaying for OUR comfort. The wolves are survivors, I honestly think sometimes we are jealous of their ways of adapting. Anway, great comment Ray, I totally agree with you. At some point ADFG needs to get off their butt and do the right thing. Aren't we as humans supposed to be the "humane" ones because we have that ability? Instead, we treat some wildlife like worthless garbage to be popped off when someone says there are too many. I will never agree with Aerial Wolf Hunting....EVER. Its wrong to start messing with the predators unless they are causing problems in your town...period.

AKNATUREGUY
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AKNATUREGUY 01/17/12 - 08:48 pm
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WHAT AN EMBARRASSMENT

What an embarrassment it is to live in Alaska with it's great wealth of natural resources being destroyed by the Palin and Parnell Adminstration and the likes of recently resigned Corey Rossi and political appointee Commissioner Cora Cambpell. These people all refuse to listen to anyone with any knowledge of modern wildlife management science. Rossi used to be a "rat choker" with the US Deparment of Agriculture, Wildlife Services. All he ever knew was to kill and indiscriminately extermite predators. As far as I can tell, he had no scientific background or wildlife degree.

Scrubaray and msjinxie are correct. Although I do think the local F & G Advisory Committee did vote in favor of wolf predator control. This does not surprise me. The committee is probably made up of mostly hunters and trappers without any scientific agenda.

The problem on ther Kenai Peninsula is foremost, lack of proper habitat. Another limiting factor is vehicle/moose collisions. The Parnell Administration and BOG need to address these issues first. Wildlife and the natural resources always lose when politics is involved. The Parnell cronies need to hire someone from the outside with a wildlife degree to be in charge of the ADFG Wildlife Division.

oldwolf49
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oldwolf49 01/18/12 - 01:26 am
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And when....

And when things get really bad, humans are on the way out and these politicians find a wolf getting ready to take a bite out of them I'll be happy. They are my brothers and I will live with them until the Great Mystery see fit to end creation.

Raoulduke
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Raoulduke 01/18/12 - 06:25 am
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wolf

The MONIES has swayed the powers that be once again.The Alaskan form of representation.They are not being bought.They have already many years ago been SOLD.

bigtalkahh
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bigtalkahh 01/18/12 - 08:04 am
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Board of Game Just a Board Game

The Board of Game are no more than a bunch of appointed non-professional people who only think they know how to manage wildlife. What a kick in the teeth for our Fish and Game Biologists who know the answers but are hobbled by not-so-bright politicians or ex-employees who want to turn our wilderness into a game farm. This decision makes all Alaskans look stupid.

ladyonthelake
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ladyonthelake 01/18/12 - 09:11 am
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Good Job Board of Game

The Kenai moose population is in decline and for the people who want healthy wildlife populaitons, this is a good day. The residents who spend time out in the woods (i.e. hunters, trappers pilots) they see the entire picture. No moose and lots of bears and wolves.

AKNATUREGUY
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AKNATUREGUY 01/18/12 - 08:38 pm
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Eliminate the Board of Game

Alaskans need to do away with the political drug store cowboy atmosphere of BOG managing wildlife unscientifically for the good of just a few hunters. There are a lot more people in Alaska who would like to see wildlife populations managed for the good of everyone, not just hunters. If hunters want to increase the moose population, they should be willing to pay special assessments. Pay for fencing the highways and construction of overpasses/underpasses in heavy moose use areas. Lobby their State legislators to reduce the speed limit during darkness hours. I don't see the BOG or hunters putting their money where their mouth is.

If there are so many wolves on the Kenai Peninsula, maybe we should start a wolf sighting eco-tourist business. Maybe we should actually be attempting to increase the wolf population to increase business here on the Kenai Peninsula. I am sure, both residents and non-residents would flock here to get a chance to see wild wolves. Just think of all the B & B business opportunity that would exist. All of these tourists would spend big $$$$ at the car rentals, the restaurants, the clothing and hardware stores, the gas stations, motels, etc. Just think of asll the sales tax income these eco-tourists would be paying into the Kenai Peninsula coffers. What a bonaza for the Borough Assembly!!!

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JOAT 01/18/12 - 09:03 pm
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Really, did the Soros group get wind of this article?

Absolutely amazing that 7 of 8 comments to this point actually oppose predator control. Please do some more research on the circle of life. There is no single issue, but a combination of multiple issues at play. Habitat is actually a minor issue on the Kenai. The vast majority of the Kenai is untouched wilderness. Go look at a map.

Humans are the apex predator. The layer of predators below us includes those of wolves and bears. That layer of the pyramid is too fat for the prey available at this time. Without us, nature would let those predators kill far too many prey, and then the wolves and bears start to starve. As they wander around hungry, they will cause considerable damage as they fight to survive. That includes turning your beloved Fido and Fluffy into dinner as well as destroying your non-bear-resistant trash cans in search of food.

The bears are already moving into town looking for food. The last thing we want on the Kenai is to have the problems of Anchorage with bear-human interaction in town.

In addition to expanded wolf hunting (which will not be used very much and won't put a notable dent in the wolf population), we really need to expand on the bear hunting on the Kenai. The brown bears are destroying our environment and yet some politically driven "biologists" claim they are some kind of unique species and they intentionally under-estimate the population. Sounds like politics to me, when the government-paid bios are out there lying to the people and doing whatever they can to keep us out of the woods.

A real bear population survey must be conducted and more brown bear hunting permits need to be issued to compensate for the deliberate under hunting that we've had in place for the last three decades. We are reaping what was sown.

JOAT
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JOAT 01/18/12 - 09:25 pm
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Nature-Dude...

California wants you back!

If you knew anything about biology and wildlife, you'd know that you can't fence the highways and your idea of over/under passes won't work. What we have done is to cut and maintain huge shoulders on the roads that extend out about 50 yards in most areas. If drivers would pay attention and drive to the conditions, there would be no moose killed on our roads. The roads are great. The drivers are terrible.

Though, I'm all in favor of reducing speed limits, it will never happen. Too many myopic introverts that think that getting somewhere as fast as possible is so important. As a real Alaskan, I believe the true root of all our problems comes from all you impatient city folks invading our territory.

Please find and cite a single successful "wolf tourism" community business model. There isn't one. Why? Because there are only 3 people on the planet who would actually pay thousands of dollars to travel to Alaska specifically to see a wolf.

Hunting is not a significant outside tourist model either. Most of the moose hunters who come to the Kenai are the same folks from Los Anchorage who come down to dip reds in July. No, if you knew anything about the Kenai hunting community, you'd know that the majority of our hunters are common folks who are just trying to feed their families. We are not looking for trophies or antlers. You can't eat either of them. We are looking for a sustainable community harvest of what the land provides. Right now, nature is taking a larger chunk of that than they should and we, the only logically-thinking and tool-using creatures on the planet, have the ability to manage all the user groups (human, wolf, bear, etc) for the benefit of the whole pyramid.

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calcan2 01/19/12 - 11:16 am
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Predator control

Funny how F&G or BOG or whoever, paid tons of money not so many years past to import wolves from up around Nelchina, to the Kenai Peninsula, and now want to kill off the very same wolves. I do agree that the brown bears need to be thinned. Ted Spraker once told me there is no way to really count brown bears, so they erred on the conservative side and wouldn't allow but limited hunting. 30 years ago, we didn't have a brown bear problem on the Kenai Peninsula, now however, there are so many that they are getting hit by cars, coming into town, and taking over the Russian River Campground. Granted there are more people on the peninsula than there was 30 years ago, but there are several times over the amount of bears than there used to be.

henrydavid
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henrydavid 01/19/12 - 12:16 pm
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hey joat

Since you seem to know everything and since you are a 'real' Alaskan, perhaps you can explain a couple of things to this fake Alaskan (preferably without oozing condescension):
If wolf hunting 'won't put a notable dent in the wolf population', why bother doing it?
How are brown bears 'destroying our environment'?
And what do you mean, exactly, by 'our'?
Thanks for the clarification.

realitycheck
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realitycheck 01/19/12 - 01:08 pm
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Spraker double speak

Board member Spraker speaks with forked tongue. He was the biologist here when the moose, caribou, sheep, goats, etc went to pot. What did he do when he was the biologist? He reduced the wolf trapping season and bag limit, he reduced the black bear bag limit, he screwed up the brown bear hunting and elevated brown bears as a special conservation concern, he restricted moose hunting and sold us on antler restrictions that we now know didn't work, and he hated the refuge so much he refused to work with them on habitat issues. Why doesn't he set the record straight?

AKNATUREGUY
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AKNATUREGUY 01/19/12 - 01:55 pm
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Spraker should resign

Wow! If all this is true (realitycheck), maybe Spraker should resign from the BOG...............and stand along with ROSSi. It is obvious that the BOG does not listern to modern day science based wildlife management. The end result with political appointees like Spraker on the BOG, is that all citizens of Alaska and the United States lose out.

I sure am glad we have lots of federal land, like the Kenai Refuge, in Alaska.

It sounds like JOAT is a Palin/Parnell political appointee also? He/she sure knows everything there is to know about predator/prey relationships. However, he must have learned it at the Palin/Parnell "School of Natural Resource Destruction".

ak4hunters
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ak4hunters 01/19/12 - 03:21 pm
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Realitycheck NEEDS a reality check

Realitycheck
Board member Spraker never gets criticized for reducing the wolf trapping season in the 1980s, reducing the hunting bag limit for wolves in the late 1980s, reducing the black bear bag limit in the 1990s, and eliminating brown bear hunting in the 1990s BECAUSE that is the most absurd ignorant statement yet. I hunted and trapped from the 1980’s to present and Ted Spraker fought the Feds from a 4 day trap check and any additional unnecessary restrictions put upon the resource users. That’s why he never gets criticized. Check your facts before you start making false accusations of individuals. Ted Spraker never reduced a season or bag limit UNLESS there was a biological concern. As far as the brown issue it was Chuck Schwartz a researcher with ADF&G who pushed for the species of special concern, Spraker fought hard against it. I know exactly what Spraker did since I sat on the local advisory committee back then. As far as the antler restriction, if it was proven to be unsuccessful, then why has it been adopted in the majority of areas in Alaska?
The biggest stupid statement you made is about habitat, it was Spraker who was responsible for crushing on the refuge since the Feds wanted to sit around and study it. The hardest thing for you greenies to swallow is Ted Spraker is one of the best, well respected biologists in the state. And thank God he's looking out for the resource and the people who use it!

realitycheck
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realitycheck 01/19/12 - 04:30 pm
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Spraker truth

AK4hunters,
It is obvious that you are either married to the guy or you have a very bad memory. Spraker wrote the proposals to reduce the wolf trapping season and to reduce the black bear bag. So you must mean he thought there were conservation concerns with these predators? Really? He supported the proposal to limit the brown bear season to the game board. How many controlled burns did he help coordinate with the feds in his time with the fish and game? All I ever heard him say was how much he hated the feds. If he is so well respected as a former biologist, why do so many former AC members and the public around the peninsula that know him think he was and is disingenuous? He says one thing off the record and a different thing on the record. He has his best interest in mind, not the resource. Too bad he fools most people that don't know his history.

AKNATUREGUY
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AKNATUREGUY 01/20/12 - 09:40 am
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HEY JOAT

I was curious about some of your "know-it-all" statements. .If you knew anything about biology and wildlife, you'd know that you can't fence the highways and your idea of over/under passes won't work".

I did a little checking on Google and in less than 5 minutes found where the State of Maine works with Audubon and the DOT to fence the highways and construct over/under passes for deer, moose and other wildlife tp help prevent vehicle collisions. Tell us all again why Alaska can't do this.

You can check it out at www.beginningwithhabitat.org

The information is also available from the State of Maine DOT.

You also state, "What we have done is to cut and maintain huge shoulders on the roads that extend out about 50 yards in most areas". I am curious, who is "We"?

Thanks,

Nature-Dude

henrydavid
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henrydavid 01/21/12 - 09:26 am
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wolves and tourism

joat,
if you knew anything about search engines, you could find a study such as this one in a matter of seconds...

http://wyoming.sierraclub.org/WOLVES%20AND%20ECONOMICS.pdf

and just in case you're not sure how to click on a link, this comes from the study:

Visitors to Yellowstone National Park spend close to one-third of the total cost of their trip in the counties around the park.(2) An average of 3.5 percent of park visitors indicated that they would not have come to Yellowstone if they had not had an opportunity to hear or see wolves.(2) Based on the average spending of visitors in the 17 counties around Yellowstone, across the four seasons, about $22.5 million are directly attributable to the presence of wolves in the park.(2) Based on the amount of money spent in the entire three-state area around Yellowstone National Park, visitors who specifically want to see or hear wolves generate approximately $35.5 million.(2)

woodwise
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woodwise 01/25/12 - 11:50 am
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My comment offensive? AK4hunters is Spraker!

Ha! Apparently Spraker flagged my comment that AK4hunters was him and ladyonthelake was his wife. Just proves that I was right. We'll see how long this stays up before he has it deleted again.

AKNATUREGUY
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AKNATUREGUY 01/25/12 - 12:12 pm
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SPRAKER

Yeah, looks like SPRAKER, aka AK4hunters, flagged my comment as offensive also.

Hunt
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Hunt 01/30/12 - 10:23 am
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Tree huggers

Ok first off, Aknaturegirl you need to go back to California with the other homosexuals. You obviously don't know a damn thing about wild life management. The wolves and bears are way out of control due to poor management because of our ignorant biologists and Ted Spraker. Does anyone remember the two huge fires we had in the caribou hills and around Tustamena lake? I do and the both created excellent moose habitat, yet theres no moose hardly at all. Explain that one! Everyone always blames it on the habitat, thats nothing but an excuse. Sellinger and Lewis have no idea about the habitat or our brown bear population. They pull theese thoughts right out of there ass just as Spraker did when he shut down the brown bear hunting based on a number that he pulled out of his ass. He did no studies on them what so ever there was no way to back then. You can't fly around and count an animal that is mostly nocturnal! Well you might be able to now since they out number every other animal around.
Also for the bone head that assumes that the brown bears will just die off due to lack of food you need to do a little more research on bears. They also eat fish, bugs, roots, sprouts, black bears, ground squirells, caribou, berries and now garbage on your back porch because there so damn many of them thanks to Spraker and tree huggers like aknaturegirl.

Preditors are the problem here no questions about it. Anyone that spends any time in the woods knows this.
A number of moose get hit by cars every year, this has been happening for a long time believe it or not! It has never made a impact on the moose population, and infact the numers are lower than they used to be because there is fewer moose to be hit. Therefore this is not a factor in our problem.
For the guy/girl that said the store is less then an hour away I got news for you, beef is not made in the store, it also comes from a living breathing animal that is raised in a fence and fed all kinds of steroids to make them grow faster and doesnt have half the nutritional value of moose meat. So go ahead and eat your beef, i'll stick with moose.

CHEW ON THAT!!!!!

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