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Soldotna joggers struck by vehicle

Posted: March 22, 2012 - 12:46pm  |  Updated: March 22, 2012 - 8:19pm

A Soldotna man allegedly under the influence of controlled substances struck two joggers with his vehicle after veering off Kalifornsky Beach Road about 6:23 p.m. Wednesday evening.

Jeromy Hurlburt, 36, of Soldotna, was traveling south on Kalifornsky Beach Road toward the Funny River area near the Alaska State Trooper building when his red 1986 Audi 5000 veered into the opposing lanes and onto Centennial Park Road before traveling onto the bike path where he struck two pedestrians who were jogging, according to court records.

The joggers, 63-year-old Joan Miller and her 46-year-old daughter Melanie Papp both are Soldotna residents and were transported to Central Peninsula Hospital. A CPH spokesperson said Miller and Papp remained at the hospital as of 4 p.m. Thursday, but said the patients had not authorized the hospital to release their conditions.

However, Soldotna Police Sgt. Robb Quelland said both women were conscious when ambulances arrived late Wednesday.

Witnesses said the car was travelling about 45 to 50 miles per hour and the women were thrown over the hood on impact, according to court records.

“There’s a difference of opinion on what took place or why it happened,” Quelland said. “But he made an abrupt left turn ... and traveled up on to the bike path where the two people were jogging and struck them from their backside. They didn’t even see the car until it hit them.”

According to court records, Hurlburt said he heard something break under his car, causing it to veer left across the road. Police reported they could not find any broken parts. He also said he honked his horn to warn the women, according to records.

Hurlburt was found to allegedly be under the influence of drugs after performing poorly in a field sobriety test, according to records. He was arrested at the scene and charged with driving under the influence and two counts of third-degree assault. He later refused to freely provide police with a sample of his blood and was additionally charged with refusal to submit to a chemical test. According to court records, he was later transported to CPH where a sample of his blood was drawn.

While speaking with police, Hurlburt allegedly admitted he smoked marijuana five days earlier and consumed methamphetamine four days earlier and he was known by police to be a meth user, according to court reports.

Hurlburt was booked into Wildwood Pretrial Facility.

He has a number of prior charges including a 2010 case involving charges of theft and forgery among others; a 2006 charge of third degree assault; a 2005 charge of fourth degree assault; a 2004 case involving charges of first degree burglary and fourth degree criminal mischief; a 2003 case including charges of fourth degree criminal mischief, driving under the influence, refusal to submit a chemical test and assault in the fourth degree, among others.

A preliminary hearing is set for April 2 at the Kenai Courthouse.

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northernlights
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northernlights 03/22/12 - 01:55 pm
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Bike path

You would think a bike path is a safe place to walk or jog. I hope they throw the book at this guy. Whats it going to take for people to stop drinking and driving? Obviously there are some who obey the laws.

msjinxie
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msjinxie 03/23/12 - 05:27 am
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WOW

ENOUGH is enough...This cannot happen guys. We have kids quickly getting ready to start spring training for running and this is the way its going to play out? Please, report EVERY driver you even think is not driving right. Simple 911 call to report A REDDI...the police will take care of it. Northerlights I agree, they need to throw the entire legal system at this guy. Makes me sick to think people are STILL doing this. DO NOT DRINK or ALTER your state AND DRIVE IT IS A REAL DEAD END!! WAKE THE HELL UP! With the amount of cabs now there is NO excuse!

Norseman
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Norseman 03/23/12 - 06:41 am
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The guy has an extensive

The guy has an extensive criminal history. Lax judical system allows these derelicts to maim and kill our family, friends, and neighbors.

Every time the paper publishes court or arrrest data, you see case dismissed, case dismissed, case dismissed, over and over and over.

Then after the person has had multiple case dismissed, they end up maiming or killing some innocent person(s).

Our current district attorneys dismiss or lose lose cases consistently. Who actually hires district attorneys? How can we get rid of them and hire a DA that will prosecute some cases and actually win?

radiokenai
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radiokenai 03/23/12 - 07:37 am
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GIVE ME A BREAK!
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To MsJinxie: WOW...you are a real winner there MiSsy! It is liberal wingnuts, such as yourself, who stand by the phone and call the Troopers on every law abiding citizen that swerves to miss a pothole. It comes as no surprise that you have MS. in your title.

I do not condone driving drunk or under the influence on the roads.

But as law abiding citizens, we certainly do not need to be pulled over and harassed by the Troopers because self-righteous little tattle-tails, such as yourself, think they are a vigilante. I bet you drive around all day long calling Troopers on all walks of life, not realizing YOU are the true hazard on the road by chatting, driving and causing stress and traffic jams!

Listen people, let’s just try to excersize something that MSjinkie lacks, "Common Sense". If you see someone driving all over the road, then it may be appropriate to make that call. Don’t be a liberal dingbat and harass everyone because you think you are a hero!.

And for northernlights: First off all, since you seem to jump to conclusions, you may want to re-read the story and discover that there seems to be NO alcohol involved. Futhermore, before we crucify the driver, perhaps we should wait and hear all the facts first ok? What happens if he really did smack something in the road, heck, we all have done it by accident.

All I am saying, is do not believe everything you read here. More often than not, I see stories that are clearly incorrect, yet are still published. (After all, that is why we have a liberal muslim [filtered word] for president).

radiokenai
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radiokenai 03/23/12 - 07:24 am
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Lord Love a Duck
Unpublished

And there goes Norseman...I am sure he will try to comment that I support the habitual criminal.

To steal his thunder, before he even boots up the PC, let me make it clear once again that I do not support or condone the actions of the driver if he was, in fact, under the influence.

What I am saying, is that in the first line it states "Allegedly". Before we send Mr. Hurlburt to the electric chair, we may want to find out the entire facts ok?

Perhaps Norseman, there was extenuating facts in the other cases that you mention? Maybe you only see the conviction based on the newspaper report from an 18 year old High School Graduate that has done no other research than what was fed to them from the draft of a police report.

bigfish4all
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bigfish4all 03/23/12 - 08:09 am
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Bike paths are dangerous

First of all, get well soon to the injured ladies. I truly hope their injuries don't plague them forever. Second of all, hopefully the driver gets what he deserves. Lastly, a word of caution concerning our overpriced and expensive to maintain federal government imposed bike paths......... they are very dangerous in some locations where they come close to the highway, especially near intersections with side roads. I have had rocks thrown by truck tires wizzzz by my ear. I have had to grab my grandson and head for the trees when cars attempting to turn off slick roads slid past the intersection attempting to turn. Cars going 60 miles an hour, that come within a few feet of pedestrians, create a potentially deadly situation even on dry roads.

cbeard
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cbeard 03/23/12 - 10:32 am
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Eck

I'm not a big fan of hard-lining criminal laws because prison and stiff punishments are not effective deterrents to crime, but all of the repeat offenses with commuted jail time on the Peninsula is very disturbing. As long as the perps fork up a couple hundred bucks to the police coffers they let them off the hook with what is essentially a warning given in a court. That's like using a few thousand dollars of tax money just so a cop can give somebody a ticket in a big room with pretty lights.

The precedents the Peninsula sets by letting so many people off the hook and not following through on traffic laws is having an adverse effect on the population. I'm baffled why the DOT is spending so much on making turn outs for slow moving vehicles when the so-called slow moving vehicles are going at least 55mph. Apparently the speed limit is just there "for fun" and really everybody should be pushing 70 in summer.

It needs to stop!

hannahjoy907
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hannahjoy907 03/23/12 - 03:25 pm
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Take Another Look Before Jumping To Conclusions.

I just wanted to say to everyone that is reading this article and those who have already commented, I know the girl who owed this vehicle and she said that there were already problems with her car, and the steering wheel AND brakes locked up, causing him to lose control of the car. I understand that most people immediately see the guy that was driving as guilty because he was "under the influence" of marijuana and meth, but you also have to realize that meth can be in your system for up to 4 days and marijuana stays in your system for up to 30 days, (and just because it's in your system doesn't mean your "high") and he even told the cops that he had smoked. This is one of those innocent until proven guilty cases, because there was nothing he could have done if the car malfunctioned. Just some food for thought.

savmar01
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savmar01 03/23/12 - 03:42 pm
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Assumptions

Well, I hate it to assume, but this isn't this guy's first judicial rodeo. And if it walks like a duck, talks like a duck, slams into people like a duck, attempts to leave the scene like a duck and then refuses a chemical test like a duck......well, you probably know what I'm getting at.

The sad part is, these ladies are probably not going to see any kind of restitution. If the car's owned by someone else and an uncovered driver has an accident, I don't think insurance (if it's covered) is going to offer anything and I highly doubt this guy has a big bank account tucked away somewhere.

I wish them a speedy recovery and hope they nail this guy to the wall.

Norseman
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Norseman 03/23/12 - 04:41 pm
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Not buying what you are

Not buying what you are slinging hannah......

"...He has a number of prior charges including a 2010 case involving charges of theft and forgery among others; a 2006 charge of third degree assault; a 2005 charge of fourth degree assault; a 2004 case involving charges of first degree burglary and fourth degree criminal mischief; a 2003 case including charges of fourth degree criminal mischief, driving under the influence, refusal to submit a chemical test and assault in the fourth degree, among others.

10 years worth of DOCUMENTED criminal behavior. A Thief, Crook, Burglar, Forger, Assaults, Drugs, DWI's, Refusals....among others.

Now we have 2 innocent and law abiding citizens seriously injured due to this derelict being on the streets.

The DA better do his or her job and put this scumbag behind bars where he won't be able to hurt someone elses grandma, mom, or daughter.

martinsheen
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martinsheen 03/23/12 - 09:50 pm
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Headline should've been 'Meth

Headline should've been 'Meth strikes again'

Jerry
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Jerry 03/24/12 - 07:50 am
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Very glad this mom & daughter

Very glad this mom & daughter are both alive, this type of actions usually leave the people dead, as we have seen else where & even in Anchorage a few months back.

What i see & hear from people is that they are sick of the lack of laws which continue to allow such things to be happening from repeat offenders who are breaking every kind of law out there, or repeating the same one over & over.

We are the ones that allow this type of legal system which actually makes it a friend to those that break civilized laws, laws many of us understand as laws to live by, OUR courts don't. Results are that the repeat criminals are actually inabled to repeat with no fear from the laws of the land, and it's cheaper on society to allow them to roam the streets than jail them.

Short history lesson. Do you know which people or nationality of people actually have 613 laws to govern society, laws to rule over every crime, or sins that are commited against others at ant given time?
Answer: The jews. The jews were given 613 laws, all of which gave the crime or equivalent of with it's punishment to be paid for those crimes against the Innocent.

The 613 laws are the exact number of seeds found in a pomegranate fruit, thats a natural fruit, not a genetically modified one, it has a scarlet flower the color of blood, blood that was required for payment of sins.
This fruit was a symbol in the Jewish temple & also an orniment on the bottoms of the Jewish Preists Robes as a reminder of the laws & the requirement demanded for breaking those laws.

The thing is that we have forsaken these laws & Justice for ALL & replaced them with OUR more civilized laws, laws that hurt more Innocent people than help, laws which have becoming Justice for NONE and Freedom for crime.
For a definition of innocent, ones that are not accountable to the law, or wrong doers, look it up & one will see that those allowed to be repeat offenders are not in it's definition.

Make no mistake folks i too use to be one that have commited this act against others when i was controlled by my own desires to do it my way, and could care less about others. I could slip and fall right back into these actions if i don't indevore daily to do otherwise with a little helping Hand from a True Friend in deed.

An Ultra Civilized Society like OURS allows & promotes this type of repeat offender & enables them to continue to harm innocent people with our lack of proper punishments for crimes.
As i have said before i call it the burger king syndrome for all, it's the "Have it your way" syndrome, which is ment to allow people do do anything they wish, just as long as their happy, thats all tha matters.
I'm not slamming Burger king here, just pointing out that they understand OUR societies desire to please self, with self being of most importance, leading us into what we now have, a society with no Moral compass to guide us in the right dirrection.
This me, me, me desire, always seems to bring us into fights & wars about whose opinion, desires are correct or not. James 4;

I still fall into this trap at times of it's all about me, instead of about others, it's a daily struggle, one that i can't win on my own, thank you Joshua, Yeshua for that help when i ask for it.

Have a GR8 ME DAY, or OTHERS FIRST DAY, ya'll.

spwright
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spwright 03/24/12 - 08:03 am
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4,000 Lbs Vehicle

Sat. 3/24/12
A 4,000 Lbs Vehicle hitting a 120 lbs Person at 40 mph & the Driver of that Vehicle has a long Criminal Past.

Sounds like Criminal Assault to me

SPW

Jerry
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Jerry 03/24/12 - 09:45 am
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What a Meth we are in with

What a Meth we are in with this attitude of allowing everyone to have it your way, A?
A Politically Correct Devolving Society where we hurting or allowing others to be hurt or killed every day.

radiokenai
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radiokenai 03/24/12 - 01:08 pm
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True signs of communist thinking...
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To all the crucifiers out there who wish to put the driver on a stake, it irritates me that more and more of Americans develop a communist-obama way of thinking. Our US laws says: "Innocent until proven guilty beyond reasonable doubt". (Yes, I believe I have read that somewhere).

This means that I really don't give a crap about the drivers past UNTIL he has been proven guilty in a court of law. Sure, it is easy to jump on the obama-mama communist bandwagon and say "He must be guilty, after all look at his past". But that shows how Un-American you are!

If he was under the influence, if he was driving high, if he was negligent and the verdict is guilty. Then by golly, I expect the DA and Judge to sentence him accordingly – and by all means, bring up his past during courtroom proceedings to show his lack of respect for the law.

But in the end, it is up to the Jurors that are required to make the final verdict. It is then up to the Judge to take all things into consideration, including his past crime wave, and come up with a fair sentence.

If you do not like the sentences that are handed out…how about VOTING the Judges out?

hannahjoy907
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hannahjoy907 03/24/12 - 03:43 pm
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Then Don't Buy It.

I am not defending anyone, and i honestly feel for the women that were involved, so you can say that you don't "buy what i'm slinging" i'm just stating what I have heard and what I know, and yes, I agree, this guy probably shouldn't have been on the road in the first place, but you also have to look at the facts. If they look over this car and see that there REALLY is a problem with the breaks/steering wheel, then who are we to judge what happened in his past? If everyone that got in car wrecks (yes i understand he hit people) was sent to jail because of their history, then we'd have no room left. 10 years of DOCUMENTED criminal behavior does not mean much in this case. Theft and forgery have nothing to do with his driving, and the DUI was almost 10 years ago itself. If he had been under the influence of alcohol, then this would be a WHOLE different story. Can you honestly say that you have never made mistakes in your life? How would you feel if you were judge because of some stupid mistakes you made over a decade ago? Once more, innocent until proven guilty.

Norseman
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Norseman 03/24/12 - 06:05 pm
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This thief and druggie didn't

This thief and druggie didn't make ONE mistake 10 years ago. He has MULTIPLE CHARGES that SPAN 10 years!

Quit trying to blame this on a car that was in poor condition. The blame lies with a KNOWN METH HEAD with a reputation and history that no mom would be proud of.

He belongs behind bars, not behind the wheel.

rainbowbrite
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rainbowbrite 03/26/12 - 08:57 am
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So hannah, what you're saying

So hannah, what you're saying is that we shouldn't judge these people who, not only knowingly put a malfunctioning vehicle on the road but also did so while having illegal substances in their system?

AKPuD
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AKPuD 03/27/12 - 09:00 am
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Response to Ambush 12

Dear Ambush12,

I am Bill Taylor, who was quoted in a portion of the article you cite. I am not THE Public Defender. I am just one of the Assistant Public Defenders who stand up for our United States and Alaska Constitutions and a free society. My personal opinions are not necessarily those of the Agency.

That being said, you mischaracterize my position in the article. I do not believe we should turn a blind eye to drunk drivers. (Which, incidentally, wasn’t the case here. The affidavit signed by the police officer indicates that the accused person had a breath alcohol content of .000.) My position is that the State should do more to keep people from drinking and driving in the first place, as opposed to merely punishing people after the fact. This involves a multi-prong approach including education and public transportation, which is a more effective solution than just putting someone in jail after they have killed or injured someone. It would be far better if we never see another innocent person killed or injured in the first place. As for harsher laws, there are already plenty of punishments for people who are convicted of driving under the influence. Any greater punishment would lose its deterrent effect, to the extent that the potential of punishment deters anyone from drinking and driving in the first place. Let’s save money and lives and stop the crimes BEFORE they happen.

Additionally, it should be noted that the investigation here was not complete, and we don’t know all the facts yet. Some of the facts which were included in the police affidavit do not appear to have been in the article. I do not know all the facts myself, nor do I pretend to. My heart goes out to the joggers, and I hope they are alright.

Finally, I use my real name, because I am not afraid or ashamed of my position and will continue to state the same both publicly and privately. I encourage others who feel strongly about their positions to also use their real names and not hide behind pseudonyms. This will help to lead to a full and fair exchange of ideas, and, perhaps, a solution to our current problems.

jlmh
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jlmh 03/27/12 - 11:31 pm
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Thank you for your thoughtful

Thank you for your thoughtful post, Mr. Taylor. While I agree with your general point that crime prevention is more useful than punishment, and that there are instances where excessive harshness might actually defeat the deterrent value, I'm not sold on your suggestions. In the last few years, a cost-benefit analysis for public transportation in Soldotna (where this incident occurred) concluded that it was not cost-effective. The population is simply too spread out. Fetching so few people from such far-flung locations would be prohibitively costly, and operating only in the most centralized locations would not service the people who needed to get there in the first place. Thus CARTS. As I understand it, CARTS will take a person to work any time of day, and to any other location during specific hours. It's not clear why Mr. Hurlburt chose to use an allegedly malfunctioning vehicle in spite of this. There is compelling evidence for ignition-lock devices as deterrents for DUI offenders, and I'm not sure why they aren't installed after the very first offense, given their effectiveness and ability to allow the offender to carry on with their lives and support themselves without tremendous accommodations. But then you have incidents like this, where a person borrows a car and you have to wonder, how can you possibly prevent this?

hannahjoy907
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hannahjoy907 03/28/12 - 02:03 pm
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Like Mr. Taylor ^ I used my

Like Mr. Taylor ^ I used my real name because I am not afraid to say what I think. It is not worth my time arguing with you people, because you have already decided that this man is guilty. Have you seen ANY of the vehicles around town? 90% look like they could fall apart at any moment, and 85% have huge malfunctions, but people still drive them, and as for the drugs in his system, I already posted about that (if everyone that got pulled over had to give a blood test, there wouldn't be anyone left) Like i said before, i am not defending anyone, i am just stating what i have heard and what i know.

Norseman
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Norseman 03/28/12 - 03:45 pm
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Why don't you read the

Why don't you read the article instead of stating what you have heard.
He FAILED the sobriety test and REFUSED to give a chemical test.
He is a known METHHEAD by law enforcement.
He has a 10 year long rap sheet with multiple charges. Thief, Burglar, Forgery, DWI's, Assaults, and Criminal Mischief.
The key word being Criminal.
This isn't some law abiding honorable citizen who happened to have a vehicle malfunction. If it had been, then we wouldn't be seeing any refusals or 10 year long rap sheets.
No, this guy deserves behind bars, not behind a wheel.

Hopefully the DA will do there job and protect our communtiy from any further harm from this known meth head.

rainbowbrite
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rainbowbrite 03/28/12 - 06:54 pm
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statistics

Since you didn't mind sharing your real name, hannahjoy, I suppose that sharing the source of your statistics (90% of vehicles in the KPB looking like they are falling apart with 85% having huge malfunctions) would not be a problem either?

Also, maybe you'd have the statistics for those with malfunctioning vehilces and driving under the influence, as well AND having had a history of run-ins with the law...

jlmh
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jlmh 03/28/12 - 08:23 pm
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Those are two very bold

Those are two very bold assumptions, Hannah. If 90% of the vehicles in this area are just accidents waiting to happen, then why don't we regularly see accidents due to mechanical failure? It's because that simply isn't true, and while cosmetic problems abound, most people do keep their vehicles functional because they can't afford to just run them into the ground. I also don't think much of your assumption that virtually everyone has drugs in their system (suggested by the assertion that if everyone got a blood test, there would be no one left). While you may only be 22 and have a limited social circle, which obviously crosses paths with Mr. Hurlburt (based on your "inside scoop" claims), there really are productive members of the community who do not engage in illegal recreation. I would even dare to say that they outnumber the substance abusers. If you feel otherwise, it might be time to reevaluate the kind of people with whom you socialize. And while I understand your point that the substances in his system may have been residual, please remember that he refused a field sobriety test too. If you can't pass one of those, then you aren't fit to drive.

bewildered
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bewildered 04/03/12 - 09:20 am
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Mr. Tylor, I lived in a

Mr. Tylor,

I lived in a neighborhood with a meth lab and a drug dealer with in a few houses from each other. Finally circumstances where in our favor and the one property was turned over to a different person, during that horrible 10 months, I was verbally assulted, threatened, my animals where harmed and I repeatedly called the police, they came a few times but certainly not every time and the people that lived there have a rap sheet longer than the state of Pennisylvania. They own cars, and drive all the time. Their casses get dismissed they get off on "lesser charges" so I am sorry but I do not support your stand. I will not use my name for fear of this comment allone. I have already suffered enough. Further down the same road (three houses down) there are more drug dealers whos house cought on fire and this town actually donated money that got them a new house built. We called the cops REPEADEDLY with license plate numbers and all. You could litterally watch High school kids drive down the road, get the stuff and before turning on to the next road, the high schoolers where lighting up and hitting it. The occupant of the home threated us. The law is NOT on our side and the innocent become the victums. I have moved from the neighborhood.

JanineEspy
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JanineEspy 04/03/12 - 07:06 pm
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Some Good Info to have

I do want to wish the two victims of this accident well and pass on some information.

Most people are not aware of the coverage provided if you carry uninsured or underinsured insurance on your automobiles. Even if you are not in a motor vehicle at the time your are injured by a motor vehicle (as in this incident) the uninsured or underinsured insurance policy from your motor vehicle can kick in and provide coverage to you for this. In Alaska the maximum for pain and suffering is $110,000 per person on such an incident plus whatever amount you purchased for your medical needs. In this case each of the women would need to have had such a policy on their automobiles.

Please check your policies and add this insurance if you don't already have it. It is very cheap! No, I'm not an insurance salesperson.

SoldotnaMom12
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SoldotnaMom12 04/04/12 - 02:15 pm
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hannahjoy907

From my observations, most vehicles on the roads around here appear to be in very good condition. Only the owners know if there is actually a problem with it mechanically. If they are aware of a problem, it is their responsibility to fix it. The driver of this vehicle was aware to 2 problems that would absolutley effect the safety of that vehicle, yet he chose to drive it anyway. So in addition to the poor decisions of being a thief and a drug user among other things, he disregards the safety of others while he drives. Whether he used drugs on that day or not. And if you think that if all of us drivers would not pass a drug or alcohol test, that is sad. It makes me wonder what kind of people you are surrounding yourself with. Because I know my circle of friends and relatives would not fall into that category. I hope you give yourself the opportunity to broaden your horizons.

hannahjoy907
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hannahjoy907 04/04/12 - 05:10 pm
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last one;

okay, i will only respond one more time because you people seem to twist words around and make them into what you want to. One more time, I am not defending ANYONE, i am only stating what i have READ, nothing that i have posted has been proven true or false, i was only saying that JUST BECAUSE HE HAS A HISTORY DOES NOT MAKE HIM GUILTY. sorry about my exaggeration with the 80% of vehicles around here have problems, i was just trying to make a point that just because there was something wrong with the car doesn't mean he knew it was going to mess up, (he said he heard something break under his car, not that he knew it was broken btw) but you do have to agree that many many cars around the peninsula couldn't even pass an IM test (just because they look nice doesn't mean they run nice).

Just so no one's confused,
1. I am not defending this man, if he's guilty he's guilty. (and no, i don't know him, never heard of him before this accident)
2. Do not twist my words around, or assume you know what i'm trying to say, if you don't get it, ask a question
3. Don't assume that i have history with the law or drug use because i believe in "innocent until proven guilty"
4. I feel for the families of the joggers, if they were my family i'd be after this guy too, but you can't go calling people guilty before they are.

jlmh
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jlmh 04/04/12 - 10:41 pm
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Innocent until proven guilty again and again and again

"I know the girl who owed this vehicle and she said..." This is a direct quote from your previous post, and I would definitely call it "inside information" if you knew the owner of the car and heard her explanation of things. But you are right, in that this is a forum to exchange ideas, and refuting others' positions does not mean you condone the crime nor engage in crime yourself. To people who have been the repeated victims of crime, treating each offense as a separate and unrelated matter is difficult. And to be fair, the worst offenses always seem to be committed by those with a long criminal history. If nothing else, I think it represents a pattern of poor decision-making that does make these offenders particularly "dangerous" to society in general.

Norseman
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Norseman 04/05/12 - 06:22 am
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There is always a certain

There is always a certain percentage of our population who are "predator habitual criminals." I remember reading that 3-4% of our population are people who will always either be breaking the law or be in prison because of it.
They are not candidates for rehabilitation. They are criminals who just continue to be parasites on society.
The known meth head who did this is a perfect example. His history is NOT based on heresay but is based on court records and police reports.
He is a criminal period. Thief, burglar, assaults, forgery, known meth head, etc.
With these types of scumbags, it is always just a matter of time before innocent people are affected.
Look at how many innocent people have already been victimized by this criminal! How many more are you willing to risk? What if it is your mother, sister, son, daughter or best freind next time?
One's past does make a huge difference. It is called reputation. Everyone has a choices to make in life and all choices have consequences.
I have absolutely zero sympathy for habitual criminals. They are why we have prisons.

He quit being "innocent" a long time ago and that is a documented fact.

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