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Witnesses say pilot was drunk before he disappeared

Posted: January 24, 2013 - 8:46pm

JUNEAU — Witnesses have told the National Transportation Safety Board that a pilot who disappeared in mid-October was last seen intoxicated at the Soldotna airport.

Officials on Thursday released four witness statements about 27-year-old Brendan Mattingley, who was last seen Oct. 13.

The statements reveal that Mattingley was kicked out of a bar after getting “very drunk” earlier that evening. After being put into a cab, Mattingley told the driver to take him to the airport. The cab driver told the NTSB that Mattingley asked him not to reveal his location.

Mattingley was leaving for Palmer in his PA-18 Super Cub Oct. 13. Radar data showed an erratic flight pattern for an unknown aircraft, which was last recorded at 2:48 a.m. on the same day, about 30 miles north of Soldotna.

— The Associated Press

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Norseman
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Norseman 01/25/13 - 06:36 am
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..."The statements reveal

..."The statements reveal that Mattingley was kicked out of a bar after getting “very drunk” earlier that evening..."

Which bar?????????

Alaska law states it is a crime to serve anyone who is intoxicated. The fact is this bar and the bartenders involved are all culpable in this man's death. The family should get a lawyer and sue.

Why did the police or troopers NOT charge the bar or the bartenders with a crime after receiving 4 seperate statements?

Laws are on the books for a reason. If they would have been followed, perhaps this young man would still be alive.

Just imagine if he had crashed into a residential area in Soldotna how many more victims there could have been.

Granted, there is personal responsibility involved, however in the case of alcohol, the intoxicated persons reasoning goes out the window, hence why the laws about serving people to the point of intoxication were passed.

The newspaper should investigate and report on WHICH bar this man was at.

ak1979
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ak1979 01/25/13 - 06:51 am
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which bar

Anchorage news web sites are reporting it was Hooligans. I read the NTSB report,witness statements indicate he was very drunk, was cut off, then was "slam dancing" people on the dance floor, and picked a fight with a male friend of a girl that turn him down.

He was put into a cab, was told by his friends to be taken to the Aspen Hotel, he told the cabbie to take him to the airport. He told the cabbie he was going to sleep in his plane.

May he rest in peace.

coolbreeze99672
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coolbreeze99672 01/25/13 - 08:52 am
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He told the cabbie he was

He told the cabbie he was going to sleep in his plane...and that is most likely exactly what he did.

Shortly after taking off...

Norseman
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Norseman 01/25/13 - 08:56 am
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If your Anchorage sources are

If your Anchorage sources are correct, then Hooligans should be held liable and responsible. The ABC board should also be contacted and investigate this matter.

Sam Von Pufendorf
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Sam Von Pufendorf 01/25/13 - 11:16 am
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Personal Responsibility

There is none in our society anymore!

Don Norton
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Don Norton 01/25/13 - 12:05 pm
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blame the other guy

It's time for people of this country to take responsibility for there own actions and stop trying to blame every one else for there stupid discissions.
In this article I guess the bar is responsible and so are his friends for putting him in a cab and so is the cab driver for taking him to the airport. Come people he made his own discissions and he pay fatally for it.

Norseman
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Norseman 01/25/13 - 12:59 pm
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AS 04.16.030

The law was broken and a man is dead.
All because Holligans kept serving him alcohol when it was illegal to do so.

Law prohibiting;
AS 04.16.030

Who may be liable?

A licensee, an agent, or employee.

Liable for What Act?
(a) Selling, giving, or bartering alcoholic beverages
(b) Allowing another person to sell, give, or barter an alcoholic beverage
(c) Allowing a drunken person to enter and remain within licensed premises or to consume an alcoholic beverage within licensed premises
(d) Permitting a drunken person to sell or serve alcoholic beverages.
(e)Delivering alcoholic beverages to a drunken person.

With criminal negligence:
(1) a person acts with "criminal negligence" with respect to a result or to a circumstance described by a provision of law defining an offense when the person fails to perceive a substantial and unjustifiable risk that the result will occur or that the circumstance exists; the risk must be of such a nature and degree that the failure to perceive it constitutes a gross deviation from the standard of care that a reasonable person would observe in the situation; AS 04.21.080

We are a nation of laws. The state of Alaska has a law in place that deals with serving of alcohol.

This is exactly why the State of Alaska wrote this into the law books. Too many times we see bar owners and bar tenders violate this law. Time for someone to enforce this law so we don't have to continue seeing these needless deaths.

Read the statute.

Obfuscate
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Obfuscate 01/25/13 - 02:56 pm
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Ridiculous

"Get a lawyer and sue". I can't express how tired I am of hearing this phrase. The Bar must have been selling that assault booze; all that stuff does is kill people. We should really ban that stuff, or at least make people apply for a permit before drinking it.... (the sarcasm should be apparent)

No doubt the Bar gave this guy a breathalizer when he walked through the door and then started forcing drinks down his throat until he couldn't stand... (you got it, more sarcasm)

Let's stop being ridiculous and start expecting people to take responsibility for their own actions. I know - crazy idea.

Obfuscate
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Obfuscate 01/25/13 - 01:39 pm
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Laws

Norseman - There are lots of laws on the books. Some of which, when broken, a death is involved.

Example: Speeding - It is illegal to speed. When someone dies while speeding, who should we sue? The vehicle manufacturer, retail sales store, last automechanic that serviced it? All parties involved knew it could break the law and that could result in death. Why didn't they prevent it?

Your copy/paste job clearly states the portion of the law that you are choosing to ignore - criminal negligence. You seem certain that a law was broken, so you must have been there and witnessed the criminal negligence that was committed?

Do you realize how silly that law is. Do you really expect Bar owners to breathalize every customer before delivering their drink? Maybe you do and maybe you'd rather just see alcohol be outlawed.

Norseman
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Norseman 01/25/13 - 03:21 pm
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seariver

Prefacing your statement with "no intent nor insult" then proceeding to do exactly that doesn't make it not so.

Singling out and personally attacking a poster in here just because you may not like them isn't what this forum is about. You can merely hit the ignore button if I so offend you.

I do suggest that before you do this again, take a moment to reread the Terms of Service that the Clarion abides by.

liftit
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liftit 01/25/13 - 07:49 pm
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Norseman, you only assume

Norseman, you only assume that the bar served him while he was intoxicated. How can you be sure that the bartender or waitress ever even talked to the guy? For all we know, his buddies were buying rounds and he was drinking them up. Does that statute that you're waving around state that the bartender needs to see the face of everyone who might sip in that drink?

That's all aside from how ridiculous your argument is to begin with.

KMarx
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KMarx 01/25/13 - 08:58 pm
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It's too bad

Guy got drunk, got stupid, made a fatally bad decision. It's a shame, for his life that was wasted and for the impact on the people around him.

"Get a lawyer and sue", what disgusting notion!

BigRedDog
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BigRedDog 01/26/13 - 05:13 am
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Suddenly stupid, suddenly ----

Blame shifting won't bring this young man back, and trust me he knew the FAA's deathnail for drinking and flying. Want to loose your wings, your pilots licence is a lot harder to get than a drivers licence. This pilot knew flying drunk could get your ticket pulled so fast your head would literally spin. Sober or drunk as a skunk he knew flying off in that plane drunk was something most of us wouldn't risk.
Probably that assault whiskey, probably had a pistol grip on that shot glass! Will that bottle hold more than 10 shots? Did you have one of those stopper things in the bottle to slow the assault whiskey from just pouring right out of the bottle so fast? He didn't drink one of those duck farts did he? I've heard they make those designer drinks that wil leave you loopy, flying in circles to come back for more.
It's just ruff all over and to danged bad, and as they say life just got a little longer for all those he left behind when he climbed into that plane.

radiokenai
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radiokenai 01/26/13 - 07:55 am
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FOR CRYING OUT LOUD NORSEMAN!
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Give me a break dude! Is that your mindset is to hunt for lawsuits and free money? No wonder you love the [filtered word] obama so much! He seems to be your best boy pal!

It sounds as if Hooligans did their job! The person to blame is the pilot who was irresponsible. It isn't the bartenders fault, or the taxi cab driver, or the plane or the fuel in the plane, or the propeller on the plane or the weather condition or God himself for that matter! In fact, God gave the Pilot FREE CHOICE and he chose to fly knowing there could be severe consequences! Just goes to show the idiot liberal out there that making up a gaggle of laws is not going to stop someone from doing something they intend on doing! (duh) Sort of like MS Not-So-Feinsteins gun control proposal! (authored by a true pig faced idiot!)

So please stop trying to sue everybody in your quest for a free hand out and how about Getting a JOB!!!???

Geez!

Seafarer
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Seafarer 01/26/13 - 08:20 am
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Drunk Pilot Story Better @ ADN

The Anchorage Daily News has a much more concise story about this. The pilot was at Hooligans.

Why are we only hearing about this now? October was a long ways away...

Norseman
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Norseman 01/26/13 - 08:23 am
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Apparently you didn't read

Apparently you didn't read the article in the Anchorage paper.
.......................................
Brendan Mattingley, of Palmer, had been drinking at the Holligans Bar in Soldotna on the night of Oct. 12 and early Oct. 13, according to witnesses. He was reportedly last seen the morning of Oct. 13 when he flew his green, red, and white Piper PA-18 Super Cub and heading to Palmer.

All four witnesses, which include a friend of Mattingley, a bar bouncer, a taxi cab driver, and a female at the bar, said that Mattingley appeared to be intoxicated or inebriated and he was asked to leave the bar and taken to a cab. The NTSB conducted phone conversations with the witness that were dated Oct. 29.
.............................

I stated initially that there lies a level of personal responsiblity. However, the people of this state passed legislation years ago that made it a crime to sell alcohol to the point of intoxication.
Wheteher you agree with this law or not, the facts are there.

Most all of the states have this law on the books. There have been cases where bartenders and bar owners were held culpable. Some were fined and some served jail time. Don't believe me, then do a little research.

Bartenders MUST attend a 1 day training class and pass a test that covers this law. Bar owners are also very much aware of the legal responsibilities they have in regards to serving alcohol. They know they can be held accountable if they violate this law.

If you do not like this law then I recommend that you discuss this with your legislature. This is a forum, this isn't a court of law. I am just a citizen that after reading the account of this young man's death, it appears to me that he was served alcohol long after he should have been cut off. If that holds true, then laws were broken. If not, then this is just another needless death due to alcohol.

Either way it is a tragedy and my heart goes out to the family.

shadowmt
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shadowmt 01/26/13 - 10:42 am
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shadowmt

Pure and simple, getting a lawyer and suing is all about money and nothing else. Its just another way to take the blame away from the real person responsible.
When your in a bar like Hooligans that is packed with people it is impossible for the bartender to keep track of what and how much every person is drinking. How about looking at the video cameras from the bar to find out just who was really serving this guy.

radiokenai
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radiokenai 01/27/13 - 09:18 am
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Just what if?
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...Perhaps the Pilot, who was bounced out of Hooligans, decided to crack open a few more before he got behind the stick of his plane? Ya think?

Noresman wants to blame the Bar and sue in the liberal fashion, thus blaming the person with the most money as fault! (gee, sounds similar to what obama-mama is up to these days huh? "It is YOUR fault because YOU are successful and YOU should pay for the failures of others!"

Get a grip Noresman, it never ceases to amaze me of how deceptive a liberal can be. "Sort of like the bratty kid on a hockey team, who is too lazy to learn to skate or pass the puck, so he chooses to trip and penalize his opponents instead of putting forth effort to play fairly. Then he blames the other team saying it was their fault not staying out of his way!"

Sound familiar Norseman? (Hint: obama re-election)

TheKenaiKid
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TheKenaiKid 01/27/13 - 03:57 pm
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Norseman

Your line of reasoning is nuts. The guy was thrown out of the bar and cut off when servers realized he was too drunk. To argue that Hooligans is somehow responsible for his choices after he was put into a cab bound for the hotel is ludicrous. Why not sue the friends he went out with that night? His family should probably sue the cab company, too. And the Soldotna airport, for that matter. After all, where were their security procedures to make sure this guy couldn't fly? How about the Air Force? Shouldn't they have been more vigilant in keeping a dangerous flier on the ground? Why weren't jets scrambled immediately? How about the alcohol companies? Shouldn't they shoulder some of the blame? Heck, just sue EVERYBODY! After all, there are lots of people to blame for this...except, of course, the idiot who got $#*%faced and decided to hop into his airplane. Can't be his fault.

Your comments on this story will be the last I read of yours. We're all dumber for having read what you wrote. Unfortunately, your "everyone's a victim in the nanny state" mentality is shared by far too many people in this country. You're ignored.

coolbreeze99672
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coolbreeze99672 01/28/13 - 09:03 am
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The only good to come of all

The only good to come of all this is that he didn't jump in a vehicle, take off down the highway, and kill anyone else.

ak1979
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ak1979 01/28/13 - 10:23 am
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amen

Amen coolbreeze Amen

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