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What others say: Bringing soldier home the right call

Posted: June 11, 2014 - 4:45pm

The emerging picture of Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl, who was exchanged for five prisoners held at the U.S. prison in Guantánamo, indicates he’s no hero, no all-American G.I. Joe, and might even be a deserter.

But what no one disputes is that he was an American soldier held by the enemy, and that alone justifies the U.S. effort to bring him home.

That is what the armed forces do. It’s part of unwritten but fundamental code of solidarity in the uniformed services. No one is left behind, and no one should seek, or offer, apologies for bringing soldiers home.

The circumstances of this particular case make the prisoner exchange contentious. The initial sense of relief and joy over his return quickly vanished when it was disclosed that PFC Bergdahl — he was promoted to sergeant during his five-year absence, as per military protocol — apparently walked away from his post in Afghanistan voluntarily.

That is a serious violation of the Uniform Code of Military Justice, if it turns out to be true.

Before rushing to judgment, however, the murky details of the Bergdahl incident must be investigated.

Already, several early claims, such as the allegation that he went in search of the Taliban forces that turned into his captors, have been debunked or questioned.

In failing to inform Congress about their release beforehand, the Obama administration ignored the law, an action the president’s advisers have sought to justify by claiming that the Taliban had threatened to kill Sgt. Bergdahl if it became public.

This, too, should be part of any post-exchange investigation, providing it doesn’t turn into a political circus. Republicans in Congress have been so eager to turn any perceived weakness or misstep by the administration into a scandal that it’s hard to take them seriously when they once again cry wolf.

Whatever an investigation turns up, it does not alter the basic facts of Bergdahl’s detention, nor the fact that bringing a captured soldier back to his family was the correct decision.

Could President Obama have handled it better, perhaps without the big Rose Garden announcement? Yes.

Did he make the right call? Absolutely.

— Miami Herald,

June 8

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KenaiKardinal88
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KenaiKardinal88 06/13/14 - 08:37 am
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Bowe Bergdahl - Traitor

Bergdahl's dad praised Allah during his Rose Garden PR stunt with Obama.

We traded 5 high-value terrorists for a traitor. Typical Obama scenario lose - lose.

America is a mess thanks to liberal Democrats.

Suss
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Suss 06/13/14 - 09:59 am
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KK88 What Trial?

I must have been fishing and missed the trial that had convicted someone for being a traitor, or the news was on Fox TV and nobody else but Fox knows about this.

I guess I'll have to wait to find the truth.

cheapersmokes
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cheapersmokes 06/13/14 - 11:26 am
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Suss

There has been no trial yet but rest assured the Obummer administration is doing everything possible to cover their asses on this blatant display of ignorance! When they finally do get all of the facts gathered together you will surely see just how one sided of a deal this way and not in our favor either!

jford
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jford 06/14/14 - 12:04 am
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There you go with the swearing again.

Between the name calling you claim you don't do and the swearing you evidently don't care about, the only thing that can be assured is that you're likely to attempt to defend the indefensible again as you have in the past.

There is no justification for calling Bowe Bergdahl a traitor, just as there is no justification for your unfounded suppositions.

cheapersmokes
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cheapersmokes 06/14/14 - 05:27 am
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jford

Anyone with even a few brain cells left can see that this whole episode just doesn't smell right. You just know the administration is going to try to put their spin on this and the Army will try and delay or stop any court martial action since it will make their decision making and the consequences of those decision look like they need some major help also.
Wouldn't you think that his parents who flew to Washington D.C. to appear with the President would of flown to Germany or now Texas to be with their son...now wouldn't you?

jford
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jford 06/14/14 - 08:15 am
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You're asking if I'd jump to conclusions without having facts.

The answer is no, I would not jump to conclusions without facts.

If one is to be responsible, one doesn't let their imagination control their opinions.

That's crazy behavior. I prefer a reality based view.

I don't form opinions based on whatever I or someone else might imagine at any given moment.

You appear to have no qualms about forming opinions based on your imagination, that must present you with a lot of problems when it turns out your imagination didn't match reality.

coolbreeze99672
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coolbreeze99672 06/15/14 - 05:34 pm
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I have a co-worker that was a

I have a co-worker that was a Marine sniper over there when all this took place. He says he had permission to shoot Bergdahl as a deserter given the chance. Obama basically pulled a fast one in the middle of the night, and traded those high ranking terrorists for a deserter on his own accord. For that alone, Obama should be run out of office on a rail for treason.

Raoulduke
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Raoulduke 06/15/14 - 07:17 pm
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We need facts.

Well! Anyone not directly involved with the prisoner exchange.Does NOT have ALL the FACTS.We do not have all the facts.We have speculation,assumptions,and a great deal of HEARSAY. We have not had an execution for desertion.Let alone a summary execution since World War 2.I believe.The desire for the life of Bergdahl by his unit.May have been present I do not believe.The permission was.

Raoulduke
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Raoulduke 06/15/14 - 07:29 pm
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Not Smelling Right

How about the Disgrace/Stench the Bush administration spun to the country about Pat Tillman.A person given the Silver Star for being killed due to fratricide- A deliberate friendly Fire.We in the civilian world call it MURDER. Obama brought a Soldier home. Something I can not find in this action-Stench,or Disgrace.

jford
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jford 06/16/14 - 01:13 am
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You have a co-worker?

You have a co-worker who thinks you're naive and gullible.

leewaytooo
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leewaytooo 06/16/14 - 03:54 am
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nothing like a little breeze

nothing like a little breeze flowing between one's ears...

there needs to be a term of distinction for obvious

BS.. any ideas?

when the facts are presented, then you can judge

the man...

cheapersmokes
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cheapersmokes 06/16/14 - 05:43 am
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Having been in the military

I have been a staff officer at the Battalion level and know first hand the pressure the military will put on this investigation to ensure their Commander in Chief comes out looking good. Therefore, I feel that the whole unvarnished truth will never come out. However, I do find it very, very troubling that his parents have not beat feet to Fort Hood to be with their son while he adjusts to life outside of his cell. It almost looks to me that they have given up on him and are trying to distance themselves from this whole issue now that they have had their moment on TV. How long before we find those releases plan an attack and kill a bunch of Americans also? I think we should turn that whole area into a very large and thick sheet of glass!

jford
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jford 06/16/14 - 02:47 pm
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When all you have to say is guess and by golly,

having been in the military doesn't make your idle speculation and conjecture any more credible than anyone else's idle speculation.

What you find troubling is apparently the workings of your own imagination since you know not one thing other than hearsay and idle speculation.

What something almost looks like to you could be anything your idle mind might dream up.

How long before your straw man argument becomes an actuality? Do you know what a rhetorical question is?

Your suggestion that our nation should conduct a massive genocide and undertake the creation of a vast nuclear wasteland demonstrates a distinct lack of foresight and judgement, let alone what it shows in regards to basic morality. Shame on you.

You want the answer to why some people hate Americans? Try hazarding a guess after rereading what your wrote. You're talking of racial genocide on a massive, never before seen scale. Wow, just wow. That's truly despicable.

Raoulduke
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Raoulduke 06/16/14 - 08:16 pm
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More

More Assumptions, More Conjecture,More Speculation.More,More,More of Everything except FACTS.

cheapersmokes
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cheapersmokes 06/17/14 - 04:56 am
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Are you finally getting sick and tired of defending the liberals

jford and raoulduke, Are you about sick of defending this President and his many, many mistakes? Look at the IRS seemingly losing many thousands of emails to and from the Director of the IRS when they were selecting those with opposing viewpoints for special tax audits? You will most likely not find any media outlet even reporting on this except FOX News.

You say we are so hated then why are there so many crossing the border just to get here? Its people like you who will watch this country go spinning down to its grave and then maybe finally start to wonder what happened!

I will always think we should turn the middle East into a very large and thick sheet of glass since they are Muslim ruled and they believe in such whacked out things like if you can't quote the Koran then kill them. They must need some more virgins in Paradise by now anyway! Like any of them will ever find it.

jford
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jford 06/17/14 - 10:36 am
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Look at your tempest in a teapot. Can't miss it.

A cursory examination shows all media outlets reporting on the tea party hissy fit.

But that was just another of your deflections from your own despicable act.

Promoting racial genocide is truly despicable. There is no justification for it. You should be ashamed.

That you are not, tells me all I have to know.

When you double down and repeat your reprehensible support for massive racial genocide and the creation of a nuclear wasteland, it is only a reflection on your own deficiency. A reflection that should give you pause.

You've proven only that you think you are beyond reproach. You've shown only that you should be dismissed for you are filled with the kind of hatred you hypocritically claim to be the domain of others. You should seek guidance. you need it.

coolbreeze99672
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coolbreeze99672 06/17/14 - 08:55 pm
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jford if you are so damn

jford if you are so damn smart...tell us what the hell he was doing off base if he wasn't deserting? Just out for a stroll behind enemy lines perhaps? Funny how he managed to make a 5 year stint hanging with the enemy...when so many others were beheaded or worse.
What really chaps my ass is the fact one of those traded for him, had a photo of himself with 5 heads he had just lopped off. And our sorry excuse for a President traded 5 of them for one lowly deserter! Thats treason in my book, all day long.

leewaytooo
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leewaytooo 06/18/14 - 03:42 am
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I think BS is now the

I think BS is now the official acronym for Breeze Sit

BS's idea of a great president is one that enters into

two wars at a cost that is still being measured.....

in lives lost and lives forever mangled .........monies

still being spent to exceed three trillion dollars..

why is it that repukes will spend everyone's grand children's

monies when it is for war..... and then that same day

claim that the democrats are spending too much money??

the muslim division between sects has never been nor

will it ever be harmonious.........they have been fighting each

other over being "right" forever......at least since the 7th

century... never ever send in ground troops if you can

"float like a butterfly and sting like a bee" from a distance..

three trillion dollars divided by the cost (1.4 mil) of one cruise

missile and you could have had 2,142,857 missiles to throw

at Iraq and Afghanistan .

cheapersmokes
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cheapersmokes 06/18/14 - 05:22 am
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Iraq and the future!

The recent events in Iraq are a punch in the face to those injured or even killed in theatre and their survivors. I do not have the answer to what we should do since some do not like my nuclear sheet of glass option but I can assure you that our idiot Commander in Chief will make what turns out to be the wrong one. I cannot wait for the impeachment actions to start and then they can also investigate his phony Social Security Number and his supposed birth certificate from Hawaii also.

Raoulduke
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Raoulduke 06/18/14 - 08:28 pm
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The Facts PLEASE

We now have people getting defensive.I do not know why. The only thing I have done.Is not agree with the speculation,conjecture,or assumptions.All I have done is .Preferring to get the FACTS.Before I sound totally ignorant on this topic. Like I said.Unless YOU were at the prisoner exchange.YOU do not have a clue period.I also do not know what happened. Some very irresponsible people want to turn the middle east into a nuclear wasteland.Not like the prevailing westerly winds .Would not within 2 weeks.Drop the nuclear fall out on this country.DUH ! A Leader must think beyond the playground mentality of you hit me.I got to use a baseball bat in retaliation.

jford
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jford 06/18/14 - 10:30 pm
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There's probably more than one birther among us,

if only they knew how that makes them look to anyone who operates from a reality based view.

If all the information you allow is in error, you're opinions are going to be in error.

…because Fox News.

Birthers are pathetic.

Raoulduke
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Raoulduke 06/19/14 - 03:39 pm
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The know not

Basing one's opinion,and actions on what one hears from Fox News.Places you in the area of"The know not". Allowing yourself to be ham strung with errors from the jump.Displays a lack of independent thought.they said it on Fox.Let's get in a row a follow like ducklings,or sheep.You choose. I can not believe.A field grade officer believes.The Commander in Chief has a bogus Birth Certificate,and Social Security Number.There are just some people to stubborn to admit their mistake,and accept the facts.Obama is an American.Born in Hawaii with a genuine Social Security number. Cheapersmokes I thank you for your service,but you need to remove your blinders.

shyeene
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shyeene 06/19/14 - 11:54 pm
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Here is the facts

Here is the simple basic fact. Obama traded five men that have taken the lives of thousands already and traded it for one man. He did so without congress approval. A five to one trade in a country with American personnel still on the ground and five top level terrorists released back out to kill thousands more. I understand the need to bring our soldiers back but not when it puts even more lives at stake. Obamas impetuous decision makes absolutely no sense.

cheapersmokes
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cheapersmokes 06/20/14 - 03:55 am
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Obama and the facts!

Folks, Since so very many on both sides of the issue of Obama's birth and Social Security number feel he is either a complete fraud or legitimate this is what needs to be done right away to put this to bed once and for all. It doesn't involve an impeachment fight just a simple action. Here is the link to the story and discussion: http://ofthehighest.wordpress.com/2014/06/11/obama-must-simply-be-arrest...

jford
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jford 06/20/14 - 07:38 am
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No, what needs to be done is,

ignore the people who can't tell fact from fiction.

Suss
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Suss 06/20/14 - 07:40 am
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Birthers Put to Bed

The Birther movement is an embarrassment unto themselves.

The was a time when everyone saw UFOs. That seemed to die off after everyone had a cell phone camera.

There are the Bigfooters that are kind of fun.

Elvis sightings seem to have faded away.

What will the Birthers gravitate to after 2016?

What will it take for Birthers to change?

Maybe it will be some of those DHS, FEMA re-education camps that are set up all over the country, far, far away from the public eye.

Raoulduke
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Raoulduke 06/20/14 - 06:26 pm
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Top Level

Information of top level terrorist's is NOT being released to the general public.Which would leave one thing missing about these individuals-FACTS. We have OPINIONS,SPECULATIONS,CONJECTURE,and ASSUMPTIONS.We NEED to KNOW FACTS before one plays Chicken Little.

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