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What is Pebble opposition's interests?

Posted: January 10, 2012 - 10:12am

I am surprised to see that the list of associates provided with the No Pebble logo consist of for profit companies that are solely interested in maintaining their profit margin, limited to their out of the state customers coming here to gather the fish and then depart.   

Sport fishing is not going to provide the means for this state to move forward. I came to the wild salmon protection site (WSP) hoping to see some pictures of true locals who have vested local input and interest not the traditional outsiders who have tried to weasel their way into managing our state.

WSP groups must have a bunch of money to be advertising on the NFL playoff game. Citizens of the Peninsula, and the State of Alaska, this is another opportunity to question standing to provide input (none) and where the money is coming from (Lower 48). Don't we get tired of those "nosy parkers"?

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cbeard 01/10/12 - 10:42 am

Talk about another glowing shiny example of a Peninsula geriatric whine fest from an ignorant person who thinks these development projects actually hire locals on a permanent basis, which is absolutely ridiculous as locals are not educated enough at all. Quite the escapist and isolationist fantasy. Yes, millions of dollars in income and we can still live in a big wildlife-loving paradise without consequences! Whee!

Apparently Ms. Hutchison forgot that these so-called "outsiders" have been lobbied by concerned Alaska residents, especially those within the Lake & Peninsula Borough, to help fight the Pebble Partnership, whose needs to maintain a profit margin are so disgustingly powerful they would rather destroy a whole biome in our state and leave even less than what we already had.

Ms. Hutchison also has a big dumb moment when she decides to deride "outside interests", a product of typical right wing paranoia. Yeah, outside interests, because OBVIOUSLY the Pebble Partnership is all Alaskan and nobody from out of state has anything to do with it, am I right? They only do biznizz in Alasker n' hire Alaskanz, aint that wut they're doin' fer shure you betcha?!

Ms. Hutchison also forgets about the Borough election in Lake & Peninsula that stated citizens would rather protect their multiple resources as opposed to developing one at the cost of destroying everything else, a sentiment echoed in a totality of polls and supported by strong opposition by hundreds of citizens in adjacent boroughs. Pebble mine would be a very short windowed profit, most of which would go to OUTSIDE INTERESTS, but when its over what happens to the jobs? They disappear and every schmuck who jumped on the bandwagon is now making a sad living of being an odd job jockey, and those odd jobs would be scarce to find as the destruction of the salmon's habitat means tourist dollars, and the population, will head elsewhere.

Fishing gone, waterways polluted (including more pollution in our Cook Inlet), a new generation of jobless schmucks, and a new generation of public commentators dumbfounded by what went wrong, looking for the next big exploitative project to champion and wax moronically about for all to see.

Good luck with that jazz. God bless! XOXOXO

Allen 01/10/12 - 04:58 pm
Typical Fallacy

Christine Hutchinson lost me immediately when she started right off on the "straw man" fallacy: "it can't be real Alaskans who oppose the Pebble Man it must be OUTSIDERS."

Well ma'am you are wrong. Lots of "real" Alaskans oppose the Pebble Mine and other mining projects that would completely destroy vast areas of the State, for short term gain that will not trickle down to the locals.

I attended a local meeting about the Chuitna mine proposed for across the Inlet and the facts that were presented there by experts showed that the long term mining jobs (as opposed to the temporary preparation-for-mining jobs) will NOT go to locals: first, there aren't that many jobs available because of current mining technology, and second, the few jobs available are too specialized and require years of experience and technical training that 99.99% of locals don't have.

Since Truth About Pebble is spending big bucks on public relations I don't see the problem with the anti group spending money for their public relations campaign, and I am sick of people like Christine Hutchinson writing "gotcha" letters to the editor about who's spending what.

spwright 01/10/12 - 05:31 pm
Who Do You Believe ? 1/10/12

Tue. 1/10/12
To be brutally Honest, I don't know Who to Believe concerning the Pebble Mine issue ?

As usual, The Fish Huggers keep stating Not in My Back Yard
& all of this Glum & Doom against the Pepple Mine.
Fish Huggers hate any sort of development & local Jobs that is not related to their industry.

Who is Paying for all of the Anti-Pebble Mine issues & TV Ads? A Wall Street Millionaire w/ a Frontier Adventure Business in Alaska. No I do NOT Trust Wall Street Millionaire.

So Who do You Trust to be Telling the Truth here ?

I think that I will Wait for the Permitting Process to run it's course & that process will produce a Honest Answer.

Oh Yeah, now rant & rave about how wholesome & great the
Fishing Industry is in Alaska ! NOT !
One of the Most "Cut Throat Competative Business that exist in this State." Just witness the behavior of the Fishing Industry in Bristol Bay. They will drive that Boat right over You
& Smile while they do it.

Retiree SPW in Slooooooowdotna

granny 01/11/12 - 07:17 pm
Who to Believe

That Wall Street millionaire is actually a billionaire and all Alaskan which pretty much renders false the letter writers point. M Schrag

Raoulduke 01/19/12 - 08:30 am

Do you like uncontaminated SALMON?Do you care for the pristine environment?Do you really believe that an earthen dam will not leak?All earthen dam's at the least seep.Do you want a sustainable renewable food source?Then why can you not make up your minds for yourselves,and quit believing the BS that is being spoon fed to you.Just one leak from the dam,and the salmon are no more.What is to be held behind that dam is some very dangerous material to life.

sapphiros 02/17/12 - 03:02 pm
Who do you believe?

If you're confused about who to believe,why not try common sense? Toxic poisons + salmon industry not to mention the Alaskan citizens and wildlife this will negatively affect = disaster. Cbeard, Allen, Granny and Raoulduke are the voice of reason, ethics and responsibility. Any intelligent, informed Alaskan citizen would not support the Pebble mine.
Deborah Thomas

spwright 02/17/12 - 06:00 pm
Reply to Ms Thomas 2/17/12

A little Alaskan History here. The very same glum & doom & diaster was forecast by "The Fish Huggers" back in the early 70's in regards to the construction of the Alaska PipeLine.
The very same issues w/ the Pebble Mine & the TAPS Pipeline are being broadcast & paid for by a Wall Street Millionaire. I will never Trust the word of a Wall Street Millionaire.

Alaska needs JOBS, Employment for all of those Iraq & Afghanistan Veterans that will be Returning Home by the 1000's.

Yes i believe that there can be Safe & Responsible Development that will be Supervised by the permitting process
& sincerely concerned Alaskans.

& No I do NOT have a Dog in this Hunt. I will not benefit from Pebble Mine directly.

Hire Iraq & Afghanistan Veterans First SPW

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