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Would Keystone veto be good for Alaska?

Posted: January 24, 2012 - 8:49am

Keystone didn't prove to be that smooth a pipeline project, that is going to Texas. I can't explain how thrilled I am with President Obama's veto of such a strategic project for energy security and trade with our Canadian neighbors. This would be a great time to strengthen our relationship with our Arctic friends. I wonder if a Keystone pipeline blessed bye the State of Alaska, with a pipeline terminus in Haines and Skagway would stand a chance of avoiding President Obama's ink? We did just tempt them with $500 million of our good money on another pipeline. We could get by on the cheap on this one! Maybe increase trade just a little with China while we're at it. Do you think we could force China to use U.S. ships to transport that oil from Canada? What an international can of worms could we be looking into? Anyone else wanting to do a little business with our Canadian neighbors? Maybe we could throw more money at someone to look at Keystone North, a much smoother route!

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Jerry
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Jerry 01/24/12 - 11:54 am
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Howdy Bigun. One must realize

Howdy Bigun.
One must realize that the OBAMANATION OF DESOLATION does not want America/Canada to become self sufficent & removed from Arab/foriegn oil.
If Americans realized that America/Canada/Alaska have more than enough oil & gas to be self reliant, then it would slow down the OWO Dream for a New Hope & Change to Believe in.

Science shows that all the supposed oil fields in America/World that are supposed to be out of oil, are in fact full of oil, oil which God replaces, its not a supposed fossil fuel that will some day run out, not at all.

What about Israels oil & gas that they have discovered off the northern coast of Israel?
This is supposed to be the largest oil & gas fields in the world, why can't we support or ONLY Ally in the Middle East?

Why do we have to buy oil from the Arabs which bend us over the barrel as they please & hate every one of us nonArabs?

It would be GR8 if we could some how get around the control of those that seek to eventually have more of a Total control of All people with the help of OUR Prez. a Union of people, people which seek to destroy America/World as we have known it for their Utopia.

History shows that EVERY Nation that has gone against the Nation of Israel & the Jewish people have come to naught. That naught is already at work in America and can be seen by things that happen every time our Presidents force Israel into a winless situation with their enemies.
This course will complete very soon if we continue to force Israel to give up THEIR LAND for a Never gonna happen peace of any length of time with those that don't desire peace, but Israel distruction.

The oil & gas thing is just the tip of the iceburg of America's troubles unless we yank our heads out to see the light of whats True & False in regard to the war against Humanity, with the war against Gods chosen, Israel & Jerusalem at the fore front.

My fear is that Canada is really in with the OBAMANATIONS OWO, & really does not want to succeed with the Keystone pipe line either, i may be wrong, but, i don't think so.

Then there is the cost of Alaskans gas which is produced right out the road in N. Kenai, whats up with this picture & high prices?

We as a Human race are in some major troubles as the Year of Fear, 2012 is finally Here.
2012, aYear which will usher in a New Era of Time, that is after the World is purged of the wicked OWO Dream which never works as history shows.
Its not the end of the World as many have tried to project, just a New Era of Time, but for who, & ruled by who?

Do any of you know the TRUTH answer to this Last ??

God help us ALL.

Keep up the good fight DB.
JB

akal
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akal 01/24/12 - 01:00 pm
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China

now the Chinese will get all the oil from the tar sands ,watch your gas and heating fuel prices rise, the president is supposed to look out for the country, but this one has done just about everything he can to destroy the US. remember on election day what has happened for the last four years.

Raoulduke
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Raoulduke 01/24/12 - 03:50 pm
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election day

I will also remember what happened the 8 previous years.

Jerry
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Jerry 01/24/12 - 09:47 pm
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Funny thing this hate &

Funny thing this hate & rembrance for Bush, Obama's cousin.
Thats right Bush & Obama are cousin along with almost all past President, all thru a Samuel Hinckley of Cape Cod in 1680's.

The only one that was not a cousin was Ronald Reagan, who was shoot by then V.P. Bush Sr's little cousin Hinckley Jr, while dad & cousin Bush waited for the good news, OOPS.

All it takes is a little study & desire to know the TRUTH, which will set you free, if only people would step back and look at whats really happening.

Obama's Dream act is to Fundamentally Change America, his own words, do any of ya know what that really intels, this Fundamental Change thingy?
Its the doing away with OUR Constitution which prohibits US from joining a OWO because of OUR RIGHTS under it to be a Sovergn Nation.

The time is coming real soon when we will all wish for the good old cousin Bush days when Obama get done with their Family Dream Act of a OWO.

Its coming down to if you belong to their Union, you survive, if ya don't belong, you perish.
Its going to be only one choice for all, life or death now, or life or death eternally.

THEY HAVE A DREAM, AND ITS NOT GOOD LIKE MLK'S.

Raoulduke
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Raoulduke 01/25/12 - 05:02 am
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relations

Bush,and Obama related?Must be getting the scoop from a book of Fox publication.Sad,and sounds entirely way to fatalistic.

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Norseman 01/25/12 - 08:28 am
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way out there...

jerry, some of your comments are waaay out there. This one for example just shows how out of touch with reality your concepts are....

Quote..."Science shows that all the supposed oil fields in America/World that are supposed to be out of oil, are in fact full of oil, oil which God replaces, its not a supposed fossil fuel that will some day run out, not at all..."

If you seriously believe that then you are definitely getting your info from some brainwashing whacked out group.

If you believe that your god replaces oil and we will never run out, then just do this little test. Leave your home and take an oil heater with you along with 2 gallons of fuel oil. Light it up and lets just see how long you stay warm. If your god keeps refilling your jug, then you have just made me a convert.

Jerry
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Jerry 01/25/12 - 10:46 am
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Raoulduk

Anyone that has worked the oil fields know that there are literally Thousands of wells that are capped because the Big Money wants to wait for the price to skyrocket before they us OUR oil.
Make no mistake about it folks, it all about the money & control thingy by a select few.

Raoulduk (then)
Norseman

Actually its from V.P. Dick Cheneys wifes book that was realeased in 2008 about the family, called 'Blue Skies, No Fences.'

If one would remember all the fuss & questions to Cheney about his 10th cousin Barack the Democrate in 2008, and whether they would vote for family instead of McCain.

It also use to all be on the New England Historic Geneological Societies web site, but WE ALL know now that anything about Obama is ristricted now from view.

Norseman

Ya got me there. Yep i'm one of those SIMPLE MINDED Jesus feaks, thats not smart enough to do the massive math which reveals that everything happening in some big bang deal is correct instead of a supernatural being creating it all with a major plan for all.

Sorry we cause all the trouble world wide with our peaceful posts of what is true or false according to our Gods word which differs from yours.
Sorry i'm not like some other PEACEFUL religions, religions that we read about daily that wish to destroy and control everyone by force. (Not really sorry for that.)

Thats OK, if ya don't believe me or whats true concerning oil, time will prove one of us either Right or Wrong, now wont it, and for now we can express our opinions freely?
Good luck with your waaaaay out there ideas & plans & your gods plans & power, what ever they are.

My conclusion is that we all have the right to believe & express what we want too, that is for now, and thats OK, if one can do it with out belittling others, or wanting their demise.

Have a GR8 day.

Norseman
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Norseman 01/25/12 - 11:13 am
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Claiming that oil is an

Claiming that oil is an infinite resource because GOD just keeps replenshing it is one of the wildest things I have heard in years.

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cheapersmokes 01/26/12 - 07:31 am
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Energy policy

Folks, I have heard from reliable sources that the North Slope alone holds over a 200 year supply of Natural Gas even with annual increased demand. I cannot understand why this state doesn't build its own pipeline to service Fairbanks, Anchorage and branch lines out to other cities and then offer a reduced price on switching vehicles to run on natural gas and/or gasoline with the pull of a lever and flick of a switch to show the big producers that they can stick their over priced gas up their hinders and then light it up. This could be built with non union labor and it the union boys wanted a job then they could also apply but it might not pay as well. The choice would be theirs to make.

The Keystone line was only proposed to ship fuels to China and continue to keep the prices high....why should we even consider selling our natural resources to others when we have our own markets to supply,

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BigRedDog 01/27/12 - 01:49 pm
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Keystone will happen!

Just so you really know, Keystone will happen either to the Canadian west coast and or south to Texas. it is just a chance this way the state of Alaska will increase trade and jobs! aggressive marketing of not only our natural resources but also our ports would help secure jobs for Alaskans!

Jerry
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Jerry 01/27/12 - 01:55 pm
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Very true Cheapersmokes. Many

Very true Cheapersmokes.
Many don't realize that its a Joint control thingy for the rich/oil & govt. & actually has nothing to do with our reserves of oil & gas that they lie about as running low.

We have more than mankind will ever be able to use up before we destroy ourselves with this Major control issue, control of others World wide & restricting commodities always gets control.
Food supply is already picked as the next control tool of the masses, which is harder to obtain if the fuel is over priced or absent.

Another major problem is the lack of Refineries Nation wide for producing gas & diesel.
This raises the prices of each far more than is a fair cost to OUR Alaska & American citizens.
Its like Tesoro out north, they make all our gas & diesel, but we here in Kenai, Soldotna pay more than cities further away such as Anchor point, Homer & Seward.
Whats up with that?

Its a moneyopoly thing, and we can't get another refinery going i'd bet due to that control thingy.
Its just like the Hospital not wanting a new business locally which would probably reduce costs if the truth was known.

The World will never run out of oil or gas before we run out of Humans, never.
We will just be told that we have for more control & dependance on Govt. to Hope & Believe in.

kenai_kid
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kenai_kid 01/28/12 - 12:21 pm
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Cheapersmokes, question your sources!

"Folks, I have heard from reliable sources that the North Slope alone holds over a 200 year supply of Natural Gas even with annual increased demand."

Total known reserves of natural gas on the north slope equate to just under 40 trillion cubic feet of gas. Annual consumption for all uses in the US in 2010 was 23 trillion cubic feet. Maybe your sources misplaced a couple of zero's.

Deliverability would be another issue. To deliver 23 trillion cubic feet of gas would be a monumental feet in itself. It would take more than the proposed 64" pipeline. It would involve 14 such pipelines to deliver 23 tcf a year.

References:
US Annual Natural Gas Consumption, US Energy Information Administration
http://205.254.135.24/dnav/ng/ng_cons_sum_dcu_nus_a.htm

US Dept of Energy North Slope Gas Reserves:
http://fossil.energy.gov/news/techlines/2008/08002-DOE_Releases_Alaska_Report.html

radiokenai
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radiokenai 01/30/12 - 08:59 am
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Obama is the worst President in History
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To all you Obama lovers out there, (shrinking numbers) I hope you keep your opinions and mouths SHUT when our fuel prices continue to climb, or you find yourself out of a job! That [filtered word] has done more harm to America than any Terrorist attack could even think of. We have to stand together and vote him out come election time. ANYBODY BUT OBAMA!

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