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All governments’ politico-religious journeys

Posted: October 10, 2012 - 8:46am

Over the 43 years since the age of 18, I have had the privilege to either vote or not vote as an American depending on whether or not I agreed with the politico-religious beliefs that each candidate or party was espousing. I do remember my exact words to my history teacher when I told her it did not make any difference who got elected as they all have the same end game plans of control. I wasn’t even a believer in Christ Jesus back then, but simple stupid me could see the writing on the walls of reality of man’s desire to control others for evil purposes.

Of course as a young impressionable union member that usually voted as the union told me to, I displaced my responsibility as an individual voter with freedom to choose for myself and my personal responsibility to research out exactly what was the end game plans of these different candidates as they presented their views of hope and change to believe in.

I have since retired due to injury, which has enabled me to learn how to use this tool called a computer to research out many different issues, as well as other informational tools in order to make a rational understanding of issues presented as a belief system for people to vote on and place their hopes in a person, party of our choice. All of history shows that every government through the ages has been a politico-religious governing body which imposes its desires on all its subjects in one form or another.

Government depends on people who align with those different politico-religious beliefs for the winning control of governments designed to rule people in one way or another. Religion has always been a tool used to control the masses and is no different today anywhere around the world, as we see many rapid changes to governments and the directions they take in relationship to political governments controlling people by religious beliefs.

If people would only be honest as they place their hope and faith in many different politicians in all parties by voting for them and their ideals, we would admit that it is a religious belief system and we are believing in promises of men for our hope and change in hopes of a better way of life for all, which never seems to materialize for very long in good for any.

So as you exercise your freedom to vote or not to vote this November, or any election, please remember that your votes are based on your beliefs in what your candidate of free choice is saying and that you are in fact placing your hope in, for a politico-religious government with your votes, no matter the party.

I will close with the words of our President Obama when he said “Don’t be duped, vote,” which I agree with as I also say, “Don’t be duped, vote” with understanding of what’s really at stake.

 

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BigRedDog
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BigRedDog 10/11/12 - 06:49 am
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Make it heaven

Problem with most politco religious themes happens when it's time to show us the heaven you plan to make of this life if we simply vote for YOU! So this could be heaven or it might be HELL, but my real question is do you really want 4 more years of this crap!! All I see in office right now is a suit that is propped up bye the polital machine establishment dedicated to turning this nation towards sociallism. we have been blessed in America to witness the highest standard of living in human hostory lavished on the hard working class people of this nation. Those that devlope the skills, abilities, strengths, and talents to trade for a carreer have prospered here and particularly in Alaska more than anyplace of earth. And now we have someone trying to get re-elected wants to change all that and say heck why can't we just give this to everyone with a vote. I'll be able to make somebody pay for it if you can't get of your couch, just vote for ME.
Life is rough "Pilgram" but it only gets worse if your Stupid. so if you are happy with BIGGER government and really think it's safe to trust in the government to provide everything you can't provide for yourself go ahead and stick that gun in my ribs and rob me with that vote you have in your hand. That is what is happening in this great land of ours when politicians tap into that vein like the junkies heart. Everybodies everything and you won't even have to pay for it at the going rate. just kind of spreading the wealth arround heck that won't change anything that much WILL IT?
I am waiting to see what happens when America has come to that point predicted " Democracies only last about 250 years, then the majority of the voters realize they have the power to lavish gifts upon themselves at the expense of others simply though the voters booth. That is the change I see this current SUIT proclaiming like some horseman of the appocolisp dressed as Don Quiote.

Sam Von Pufendorf
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Sam Von Pufendorf 10/11/12 - 07:48 am
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Good Job WoW

Now was that so difficult? No rants of the end times ... sticking on topic. Referencing your religious beliefs while remaining neutral in regards to the candidates. Keep it up in your posts.

Norseman
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Norseman 10/11/12 - 09:15 am
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Thomas Jefferson

"Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between man and his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legislative powers of government reach actions only, and not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between church and State."

-Thomas Jefferson, letter to Danbury Baptist Association, CT., Jan. 1, 1802

Suss
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Suss 10/11/12 - 10:31 am
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Magic Underwear Unfair

Magic Underwear Unfair
Mitt's secret weapon is hidden and will make him invincible.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cbfgmorIGE

5 and 2
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5 and 2 10/11/12 - 07:36 pm
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Sam V P, WoW was blocked Tuesday

Sam VP, WoW asked me to let you know that he was blocked on tuesday morning from posting any longer. WoW asked me to let you and others know why he is not responding to comments from people on the many differant articles so know you know.
WoW only wants people to know that each of us are responcible for our own actions and future in regard to our free choices in this Politico-Religious world. WoW really does care about people and only wants to try and warn of coming troubles in relation to what the Bible says and what mankind says, which seems to differ in many areas.
Either God is right, or man is right and we all shall make one vote as to who we vote for.
As WoW and i have talked about What If's.
What if Obama has brought America to the depths of total dispair and economic collapse and he intends to lose this election so he can hide out and romney will be blamed for whats coming very soon.
Enough said, other than WoW really does care and wants to help others. Many times he is just a little rough around the edges as to how he shares his beliefs which are only in Gods mercy and Hope for anyone.

Sam Von Pufendorf
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Sam Von Pufendorf 10/11/12 - 11:08 pm
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5&2

Sorry to hear about WoW. The reason he may have been shut down could have been because he tied his message to every thing. I remember last year he put his message of the "obamanation of nations" on a poll asking how far the Packers would go in that season. His message was a bit off topic. However, as long as he wasn't being rude or offensive, I see no reason for being banned.
WoW may be gone, but my bet is he'll be back... He more than likely already is. At any rate, he did well at expressing his opinion in this editorial.

Norseman
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Norseman 10/12/12 - 07:04 am
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so now wow is 5n2. praise

so now wow is 5n2. praise god,allah, buddha, yawhe, jehovah, elohim, baha, shiva baba, gitche manitou, oya, for the ignore button.

lkpomn912
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lkpomn912 10/12/12 - 11:49 am
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nay

wow is not 5n2, he's bigreddog.

"""Government depends on people who align with those different politico-religious beliefs for the winning control of governments designed to rule people in one way or another."""

if people (never cats you understand) if people are making a religious choice along with the political vote........
how come some Catholics in Slowdotna are adamant Republicans & some are determined Democrats?

how come some Protestents on the peninsula are radial Democrats & some are hard-core Republicans?

BigRedDog
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BigRedDog 10/13/12 - 05:01 pm
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Ikpomn912

Well I have known WOW for 35 years and have never been to embarrassed when confused with or mistaken for WOW. We were Union Brothers and are Brothers in Christ but he aint really that handsome! And I aint that long winded!

lkpomn912
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lkpomn912 10/13/12 - 06:53 pm
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in the leadership theory the

in the leadership theory the saying is
There are no bad crews, just bad leaders

Who’s leading our country, Who’s leading these kids

{BIGREDDOG I miss the wall watcher, hope he returns}

radiokenai
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radiokenai 10/15/12 - 08:09 am
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ONLY THE CLARION....!
Unpublished

That the Clarion Posts a Letter about Religion...And then ban WoWs responses about Jesus Christ and Christianity.

I bet if he would have spoke about Muslimism and Jihaudulism it would have remained?

Clarion fears that trampling on a poor Islam is against the American Constitution huh?

Amazing isn't it?

radiokenai
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radiokenai 10/14/12 - 03:38 pm
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After all....
Unpublished

"...Heaven forbid someone trying to spread the word of Jesus Christ and the Church!"

Lets see how long this comment lasts?

I said those 2 words that put the fear in Liberals hearts...

"JESUS CHRIST!"

radiokenai
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radiokenai 10/15/12 - 08:24 am
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To lkpomn912
Unpublished

Simple answer to your question:

"Because some Catholics are informed voters and vote Conservative. While others are uneducated basket-cases who are looking for a free ride (at the cost of our Constitutional Rights)...and they vote for obama-idiot.

Speaking of which, did you see obama's non-verbal reaction in the 1st debate when Mitt stated our Country was "One Nation Under One God"?

You could see in obama-fools facial expression that his God is different than our God. His allah orders that Americans who does not follow the satanic islam religion, should all be killed!

Finally, I had to laugh out loud when I read your whole question about the Catholics in Soldotna...after all..."Have you, yourself, been paying attention to the perversion and sin of the catholic church these days? No wonder there are so many obama-jerk lovers in the catholic church, if you attend a church that believes in offering child rapists, perverts and gays a safe haven behind the cloth...well no wonder they endorse a president who falls in line with their beliefs.

After all, it seem the catholic church and islam follow the same path!

BigRedDog
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BigRedDog 10/16/12 - 06:23 am
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WOW can still SEE

The real problem in America today cannot be solved bye some shallow minded manuvering. The problem comes down to one thing,"The people that work for a living in America today, are outnumbered bye those that Vote for a living." The benifets for following this current administration are starting to be very clear. Heck if Obama likes you he could give you a car dealership or maybe make you Czar of something. He has some 30 of these appointed czars just taking care of the peoples business, none of these required Congressional approval. How's that for leadership? Obama can make you a Czar and we all know that is the ultimate form of leadership, no questions, no answers, just back to work peasant. but not those of you whose job it is just to VOTE me back into office.

Norseman
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Norseman 10/16/12 - 08:04 am
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All of you Obama haters are

All of you Obama haters are going to have to find a way to deal with it for 4 more years. Instead of hating your country and it's president, why don't you channel that negative energy into fixing the real problem which is congress and the senate.

The president only holds so much power, the real power for this country is in the congress and senate. We need a congress and senate that will work together to get things done for this country instead of undermining and blocking every attempt to keep this country moving.

Everyone's real anger should be to congress and senate. Let's get people in there who can work together. All of us in our daily lives must work and live together. If we ran our business or our familes like congress and the senate does, we all would be out of work and living alone.

freedomlibertytruth
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freedomlibertytruth 10/16/12 - 01:43 pm
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All of you Romney haters are

All of you Romney haters are going to have to find a way to deal with it for 4 years. When you say 'work together' you mean 'submit' to your orders. You mean obey.

Watchman on the Wall
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Watchman on the Wall 10/16/12 - 02:14 pm
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Communist indorse Obama Again

I saw that the Communist party indorsed Obama again this election just as they did 4 yrs ago.
That probably does not mean anything though.

freedomlibertytruth did you know that 'submit' and 'obey' is what a certain radical, i mean obedient politico-religious groups name means which is predominantly found in the middle east, but desires to spread globally.
Their name means 'submit,' 'too obey' rather than peace, as we are continually told it does?

No matter if you vote or don't vote come November 6th, 21 days from today, ALL Americans, Alaskans are going to be crying.
Simple economics dictates this view and we are about to have OUR Credit Blocked, cut off and when that happens to America, ALL the World will also crash economically. Electronic banking is about to shut down, then what will you, we do?
Economic sanctions are already in place as well as other sanctions which control what we buy, say or do, at every turn.
When the World crashes then will the cry arise from Everyone for a man or god to deliver us from this Global economic morass into which we have sank.
All of us humans will suffer and cry from what is about to come on US ALL, voters or not, Americans, or not, White, Black, Red, Yellow, Brown or Gray, ALL humans shall cry out for yet Another Hope & Change to believe in, for salvation from what has come about on us all.
We had all better start aligning our support groups now and be willing to help others no matter who they voted for, or did not vote for, when the time comes.
I think that time is real soon now and if we do make it to voting in Nov. it wont matter who wins as OUR American Buslines bus is already hanging off that economic collapse cliff, that ALL parties atributed too.

BigRedDog
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BigRedDog 10/17/12 - 08:01 am
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norseman don't tell me

Don't tell me you think Obama has a snowballs chance of turning this thing around! It must be okay bye you for this community adviser to use executive privilidge to shut down the Keystone Pipeline project and try to take credit for increased national petroleum production. When 15,000 DOE employees can't timely do whatever is needed to support this vital project it's okay to use executive order to stop this project? Well that isn't getting the job done to support our National energy needs! The only pipeline this President isn't blocking is the one carrying our National Wealth to China.
The blockade in the Senate and Congress is nothing but the American Public crying out that it isn't okay to sell this nation down the tube of socialism, and that is the moving your talking about. Obama wants to keep moving this nation towards socialism and YOU like the direction. You can go ahead and support this hope and change message with your vote, but Obama's just a suit representing a Politico machine whose goal is socialism.
Romney has forgotten more about managing and making money than Obama ever knew. Obama jumps on Romney for only paying 14% taxes on his earnings. He has paid 35% taxes on the money in that investment fund, and this investment fund like thousands of others is the venture capital that keeps this country prospering. He didn't have to reinvest that money to keep our economy moving, he could just sit on it. How did this community adviser manage to get where he is today is the mystery. but it sounds like the norseman thinks it's allright to rob those wealthier or better prepared for life to shore up life for those that sit on the couch!

Watchman on the Wall
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Watchman on the Wall 10/17/12 - 09:23 am
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I wanna be a community organizer $MILLIONAIR$ TOO!!

Obama is one of the FIRST $MILLIONAIR$ community organizers and i want to be just like him, so show me the money.
Stop the madness!
If they really gave a flip about people they would bail us all out.
Give me and every American totaled at 350 million people OUR Share of a $700 $BILLION$ Bail out & i'm sure we can all manage our own affairs just fine. What the heck make it a $TRILLION$, we got cash to spend on everything else, why not AMERICANS? Even the rich can have their cut, it's the AMERICAN thing to do ain't it?
Obama nor Romney are gonna stop our American Bus lines economic bus from hitting the bottom of the canyon of collapse. We are already over that cliff as a nation and OUR Credit Line is about to be shut off.
No credit when one tries to purchase basic needs usually means massive suffering and hardships.
When i use to mismanage my money and i ran out and my credit line was shut off i was in some major troubles and it took a long time to reverse that state i was in.
Same thing for a Nation and as the daily news shows many nations are crashing all around the world or being sanctioned for a forced obedience to the controlers of the World.
Troubles coming and already is here and Romney nor Obama can reverse that fact.
Romney may be able to slow it down for atime, but he will not, cannot reverse our nations planned & promoted demise.

You all have seen the logo of Obama's plans OBAMANATION?
I like to inhance that logo into what it really is and thats OBAMANATION OF DESOLATION, because thats all he has worked FOREWARD for and it's to late already to reverse that flow.

freedomlibertytruth
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freedomlibertytruth 10/17/12 - 12:45 pm
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‘secular humanism’ agenda

Party shills pushing ‘secular humanism’ agenda through the democratic party
Advocating progressive values & equality for humanists, atheist, & freethinkers.

Liberal moderator Jim Lehrer:
Interrupted Romney 15 times & Obama only 5 times.

Liberal moderator Candy Crowley:
Interrupted Romney 28 times & Obama just 9 times.

Libs given more talking time in debates:
- Obama got 8% more time, debate #1
- Obama got 11% more time, debate #2
- Biden got 3% more time

Towhall meeting Mrs. Obama violates rules, claps & applauds.

Her husband spoke perfectly when he said, “WHEN I WAS PRESIDENT”….. hopefully the use of the past tense will be accurate.

(Yes, WATCHMAN ON THE WALL, I do understand what "submit" & ‘obey’ means, however I learned from author George Orwell’s books ‘1984’ and ‘Animal Farm.’) do kids read these today?

Gallop poll:
- Romney up 51% Uh Ohh down 45%

Watchman on the Wall
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Watchman on the Wall 10/18/12 - 02:55 pm
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Any idea if we get to see 2 conservative movies here?

Are we gonna get to see Atlas Shrugged II as well as Obamanations America 2016?
I would pay Good almost useless to the point of printing on one side money, to go to these two movies.
Anyone know if we will get to here on the Kenai?

flt
It is amazing how so many SUPPOSED FICTIONS written years, even centuries ago are now becoming reality.
I have always been amazed with the movies Arnold Schwartznagger made and how they all have tried move people away from what was coming on earth and in politico-religious governments as Pure Fiction, and now there coming true daily and at WARP SPEED Scottie.
I have for the last 35 yrs always loved Bible Prophecy about things that have happened, and things that are happening and things about to happen all according to Gods Promises as a means to warn mankind to prepare and make the right vote for either God or satan all out of Love.
What we see now is that the World News is finally catching up to what the Bible said was coming for the End of Days, Era of Time we are now in.
Consider this: God is truth, men are liers.
The next Politico-Religious Bible Prophetic event to happen i do Believe is the total distruction of Damascus, Syria and subsiquent attacks by Russia, Iran and other Islamic allies against Israel leading to their distruction on the mountains of Israel, Gods land promised to his people, the Jews.

Watchman on the Wall
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Watchman on the Wall 10/19/12 - 06:22 pm
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OPTIMAL RIOTS COMING

I am worried folks about the things i see happening to Americans as we are all being thrown under the Obamamobil as it speeds off that economic cliff, dragging all of us with it as we hang on trying to stop rapid decent to the bottom.
I'm not worried for my self or other True believers in Christ Jesus, but for all that don't know his way of escaping what he said was coming as judgment against all ungodlyness of men.
We can see from the 911 attack in Libya that killed 4 Americans was a planned attack and every attempt has been made by Obama to blame this as an OPTIMAL RIOT(as Obama said it was) produced by a supposed video in spite of proof that this was a diliberate attack and not a riot.
I hope and pray that we make it to November 6, for that Presidential election, but it sure looks like Obama may have something else in place as he isn't worried about loosing the election what so ever as he continues to have NO PLANS for Americas Future at all other than the same old thing.
I have said for years now that i truly did not believe that we would ever reach that election day as a Free Nation and when one realizes that it all could be Gone in 60 seconds now days i could be right.
I hope not. I'm not a nut job folks, just some one that really Loves my fellow humans and only wants to help prepare them for the wicked thats coming this way soon.
What a mess we are in with our Isaiah 9:10 attitude towards God warnings which God sent us on 911, and 7 years later in September 2008 with the 777 stock crash causing yet another crumbling of Americas strength in self and economic might, rather than dependance on God OUR Old Hope and Fundamental compass for the Good of all people.
Just as Israel did, so America has done and History shows how that worked out for Israel and whats ahead for America. God spanks those he loves, just like we do to those we love and provide for.

gfds98765
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gfds98765 10/19/12 - 07:34 pm
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it was already here silly WOTW

"Scifi movie for sure" was one of your comments.
2016 Obama movie was at the Kambe

Watchman on the Wall
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Watchman on the Wall 10/19/12 - 08:28 pm
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IT WAS HERE?

Man i missed it? I probably thought it was a movie in support for Bo, instead of a Reveal about the True life time Dream desired by the Chosen Unknown One.
That'll teach me to read more instead of seeing Obama nad switching off whats being said or shown by him or about him. I am getting better and love the way Mitt is using Husans words against him at every turn now. Every thing Obama or Biden says now Mitt has an instant trailer that say Mitt Romney aproves this message. I love it.
I hope to see Atlas Shrugged II when and if it comes. I have to get out more than daily i guess and start doing drive byes at the movies to see Whasssssss uupppppp!

Did any of you see the Alfred Smith comic roast at the Waldorf in NY last night?
Mitt and Bo actually had some good zingers that were funny inspite of the condition we are in as a Nation under Bo's crushing burial of the Middle class the last 3.9 yrs.

freedomlibertytruth
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freedomlibertytruth 10/20/12 - 03:30 pm
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It's ok WotW, just don't miss Atlas Shrugged ll

as I wrote in an earlier post:
Ronald Reagan said Vote with your Feet. If you don’t like how a state is being run, vote with your feet and MOVE.

If you like a business, Vote with your Pocketbook and BUY.
I’ll join you gfds98765 and buy an extra ticket and a large popcorn. Maybe even splurge on candy. go to the movie.

ATLAS SHRUGGED PART ll Ayn Rand
it's playing in anch, but not on the local schedules yet.

Watchman on the Wall
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Watchman on the Wall 10/20/12 - 07:51 pm
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Another Politico-Religious Miracle today, Peace with IRAN.

As i searched out other sites this evening after getting home from Anchorage, where i did not take time to go see ASII, i read that to my surprize just as i said it would happen any day now, Iran and America may have a Peace on Nukes deal.
It's a Preelection Miracle #2 for the Messiah BO.
Miracle #1
Was the fake jobs report with it's missing numbers from California which got us to the wonderful exact 7.8% unemployed when BO took office during the WORST DEPRESSION EVER, but now that 7.8 is wonderful and a SIGN from somewhere that things are turning around for the USA. OK!
Miracle #2
Is a report today that Iran and America have been in SECRET MEETINGS and have agreed to a Nuke peace deal just 18 days out of election time. Praise someone, i'm just not sure exactly who we, i can Praise now days here in America as to whether it's allah, BO's choice or Yahweh, God, MY choice.
Kicker #1
Iran wants to see just who wins the election before they actually DO THE DO Miracle so i guess it ALL depends on ME AND YOU.
Don't be Duped Again or as Scotty said it, "Fool me once, Shame on you; Fool me twice, Shame on me!"

Watchman on the Wall
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Watchman on the Wall 10/21/12 - 10:03 am
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WHEN U BELIEVE IN THINGS U DON'T UNDERSTAND, then U SUFFER!

An OLD Song this morning shows what i've been saying abvout EVERYONES POLITICO-RELIGIOUS BELIEF SYSTEMS.
"VERY SUPERSTITUIOUS, WRITINGS ON THE WALL,
WHEN YOU BELIEVE IN THINGS YOU DON'T UNDERSTAND, THEN YOU SUFFER."

What more can i say other that it's 18 days till Judgment day and 2 months till 12-21-12 yet another supposed start of Judgment Days start at the End of the Age of Time we are now in.
Have a GR8 Day, don't worry, be happy, but make sure you know what makes you happy and whether it is long lasting or timperal, of God or mankind which depends on your COMPLETE UNDERSTANDINGS searched out for your selves, not what some SUPER DUPER DUPER has told you.
Romney and Obama BOTH, EACH included as ONE Super Duper Duper.

bob99507
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bob99507 10/22/12 - 06:31 am
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norseman

"The president only holds so much power, the real power for this country is in the congress and senate. We need a congress and senate that will work together to get things done for this country instead of undermining and blocking every attempt to keep this country moving."

What did you say when Mr.Bush was President? You and the rest of the lib-a-tards blamed him for everything while Reid and Polnazi were running the house and senate. Get a story and stick with it.

Watchman on the Wall
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Watchman on the Wall 10/22/12 - 07:27 am
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Any ever hear of Govt. projects called HAARP?

INteresting show on the discover channel last night about Americas hidden secret buildings, that are in plan sight.
I had seen and read about alot of what was on last nights show but this HAARP thing does bring to answer and light of just how much power satan has and is giving to men to destroy & control other Created beings and in fact ALL of Creation of God which he hates and wants to recreate into a 7 headed monster.
Check it out and then you can see where differant leaders have claimed that America is controling weather and massive distruction every where to gain more control of every one globally.
If you don't think satan has power to manipulate weather then read the book of Job and see where satan did in fact control weather and distroyed every thing Job had and even caused massive sores on Job to try and get him to curse God.
Every action by every one is a politico-religious journey and i hope some will realize which road they are on and turn to the RIGHT WHILE THEY STILL CAN DO SO.

gfds98765
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gfds98765 10/24/12 - 06:23 pm
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You know there is really only

You know there is really only one word that follows ‘FORWARD’ And it’s 'MARCH.'
As in ‘forward march’ in lockstep. Not really a pleasant campaign slogan. kinda too similar to the nazi socialist lockstep regime.

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