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What happened to 'my' Democratic Party?

Posted: January 11, 2013 - 9:01am

There is not very many people today who can take their thinking minds back to the 1930s and 1940s and very likely the schools are not giving very much attention to what happened way back then. I know a few people who know the truth about those times.

My Great Grandfather immigrated to the U.S. in the mid 1850s and started a family history of Democrats. My father had 3 brothers and 2 sisters, and my mother’s side had 8 sisters and 1 brother and to my remembrance, it was always Democrat talk around our family table.

After the Korean War, I was discharged in 1955 and there seemed to be a drifting away from the Democrats. Since that time I have never been party affiliated. I have voted for the best qualified and most favorable of my beliefs. I could never, ever be a total party line person.

During my young days, the Democrats were in control for years and my personal opinion was that Dems were for farmers and working people and Republicans were the business and banking type. Thoughts of a teenager.

Not passing a Budget for 4 years now, tells me the Democrats are not taking serious their duty as elected officials. Maybe they feel their top guy will only use what he wants so why bother?

Two of the most difficult jobs I’ve had in my working life is striking an arc of a welding rod to weld up a hot gas leak under pressure, and writing politically correct letters to the editor.

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akmscott
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akmscott 01/11/13 - 09:24 am
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What happened was-they turned

What happened was-they turned Socialist and want the nations economy to tank so they control the government that controls everyones lives!Obama and his minions want total control and the country and the constitution as it is now, is in their way!The beginning of the next civil war is already here.

Sam Von Pufendorf
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Sam Von Pufendorf 01/11/13 - 11:29 am
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Founding Fathers

I apologize in advance for the lengthy cut and paste. Here are some thoughts in regards to politcal parties and associations by two of our founding fathers:

There is nothing which I dread so much as a division of the republic into two great parties, each arranged under its leader, and concerting measures in opposition to each other. This, in my humble apprehension, is to be dreaded as the greatest political evil under our Constitution.

-John Adams-
2nd President of the United States

All obstructions to the execution of the laws, all combinations and associations, under whatever plausible character, with the real design to direct, control, counteract, or awe the regular deliberation and action of the constituted authorities, are destructive of this fundamental principle, and of fatal tendency. They serve to organize faction, to give it an artificial and extraordinary force; to put, in the place of the delegated will of the nation the will of a party, often a small but artful and enterprising minority of the community; and, according to the alternate triumphs of different parties, to make the public administration the mirror of the ill-concerted and incongruous projects of faction, rather than the organ of consistent and wholesome plans digested by common counsels and modified by mutual interests.

However combinations or associations of the above description may now and then answer popular ends, they are likely, in the course of time and things, to become potent engines, by which cunning, ambitious, and unprincipled men will be enabled to subvert the power of the people and to usurp for themselves the reins of government, destroying afterwards the very engines which have lifted them to unjust dominion

George Washington
1st President of the United States.

Founding Fathers did not anticipate or desire the existence of political parties, viewing them as "factions" dangerous to the public interest.

Founders' republican ideology called for subordination of narrow interests to the general welfare of the community.

Under republican ideology, politics was supposed to be rational and collaborative, not competitive.

But the first American political parties began to form while George Washington was still president.

We were warned!!!

Watchman on the Wall
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Watchman on the Wall 01/11/13 - 02:06 pm
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Founding Fathers & Creator

Please allow me to say that i appreciate this cut and paste. I realize that it is not ment as a means of instilling fear on others, but, is a means of sharing what our forefathers warned us was coming and how to prepare for it's arrival and possibly avoid being reinslaved to Governments evil desire to control absolutely. All our forefathers tried to warn us was coming and the way it would come is exactly what is happening to America today, is it not? We did not heed their warnings given out of LOVE, not FEAR for their fellow man. We are starting to see the error of our ways, at least some of us are, many will never see or prepare for whats coming on us all like a wildfire or a tsunami in spite of all the warning given past or present.
If i may inject a thought here about warning from the past about the future by those that LOVED and CARED for mankind as our forefathers showed. "What has been, is what shall be, there is nothing new under the sun." Then there is the "if we fail to learn from history, we are destined to repeat history."
Didn't God also do the very same things out of LOVE, not FEAR tactics in history pasted about what was coming and how to prepare or escape it in his writings?
Evil has no party, evil even hates it's self and seeks to destroy everything including it's self by fighting a nonstop loosing Battle against Good.
May i use your final words above at the conclussion of your info sharing with others?
"We have been warned," by several LOVING entities wanting to protect us, not scare us!!!

Be Blessed

cormit
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cormit 01/12/13 - 01:28 pm
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What happened?

What happened is .... Americans are no longer an informed citizenship .... or worse yet they are informed with junk that's not true .... not even close to what's true. Many of todays voters .... you know the ones I mean .... the ones spewing accusations of Communism, Socialism, Marxism ... the ones that get their information from Fox News, Glenn Beck, Rush Limbaugh .... and somehow think this conspiracy information is "knowledge".

Americans must recognize what their problems are if they have any hope of fixing them.

If you don't mind a "blunt .... in your face response" watch this.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMqcLUqYqrs

Sam Von Pufendorf
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Sam Von Pufendorf 01/12/13 - 03:50 pm
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Cormit

Sad, but in many respects very true. Politicans spend more time campaigning than they do governing. They say "feel good" things and expound on where we are and where we've been but very little on where we should go. One party protects the unborn children, but abandons them once they are born. The other party boasts "freedom of choice" concerning abortion and is okay with the taking of innocent life. Both parties commit an abundance of time trying to prove the other is unfit to govern, and as far as I can tell, both are successful in proving that point!
What we don't realize is there is no such thing as a "lobbiest" anymore! They are politcal brokers. They contribute to campaigns to get the candidate of their choosing elected to office. The lobbiests are the owners!!! They used to visit congress to present arguments for thier cause. Now they are brokers visiting congress to supply them with a campaign war chest. The elected official ... who are they beholding to? The single voter? Or the Super PAC that continually gets them re-elected? Without the cash, there is no re-election in most cases.
We were a country that relied more on our neighbors than we did our government. We helped each other in times of need. We sought and gave encouragement! We encouraged critical thinking and now discourage that same thinking as to "liberal" or to "conservative." In short, we have lost our moral compass, our passion and compassion. We have all (myself included) become to selfish. Most of us don't research the candidates, we merely listen to what they have to say and allow CNN, MSNBC and FOX to tell us what they meant. The few of us that show up in the voting booth to vote for a candidate that is so far out of touch with the citizenry that they could not possibly feel our strife or understand our struggles, show up ill informed and as out of touch as the candidates we vote for.
Some people say "the government has failed us." To that I say we are "a government of the people, by the people and for the people." We therefore have failed ourselves! We became complacent and uncaring. We became a nation of people who ask daily "what's in it for me?"
We are a nation that has been on a drunken binge for 40 years mindless of the fact that every drunken binge comes with a hangover. The time has come for us to feel the pain of the hangover that "we the people" are responsible for. It is time to sacrifice just as the generations before us have sacrificed and who we are now threatening to turn our backs on.
I love America! I love this country! I know very well what is capable of being. And deep down, I know we are capable of being that America again. I'm just not sure we are willing! Without realizing the problem and admitting our part in that problem, it will never get any better.
Thanks for sharing that video.

Seafarer
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Seafarer 01/12/13 - 10:26 pm
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Dems

Do not despair the Demos yet. Your teenage year thoughts are exactly like mine, now and always. The [filtered word] are the "business people". That's your clue right there.

The Dems have presented budget after budget, but the [filtered word] won't let it pass.

Sam Von Pufendorf
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Sam Von Pufendorf 01/13/13 - 04:52 am
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Seafarer

In May 2012, the House put forward five separate budget proposals for a vote in the Senate. The proposals included the House-approved proposal by House Budget Chairman Paul Ryan and one that was very close in content to the budget proposal submitted earlier in 2012 by President Obama. That was in addition to four alternate plans presented by the House. Unfortunately, all five were rejected in the Senate.
It has little to do with "democraps" or "[filtered word]." It is the "faction" that George Washington warned us of. We have all bought into the game of politics. Us and Them. Conservative and liberals. Republicans and Democrats.
Both parties are run by business. You are right, more so the Republican than the Democratic party has corporate financial contributors. But they are BOTH driven by cash! NOT the will of the people. Our "leaders" spend more time on the soap box stumping for re-election than they do actually governing.
Politics was supposed to be rational and collaborative, not competitive. Will we get past the congressional and White House political brinksmanship to actually do the will of the people? That has yet to be seen.

Watchman on the Wall
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Watchman on the Wall 01/13/13 - 07:37 am
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$No Limits$

I see that his Kingship has decreed that there SHALL BE NO LIMITS to $donations$ for his 2nd inaguration party.
GR8 News for you Demos, now you can give till your little hearts are absolutely content. OH WAIT!! Your the $Takers$, not the Givers. Oh Well! Maybe your attitude will change come his 3rd or 4th inaguration party. As i have said many times there is no real signs of who is who, nor will they care when they come to destroy & have total, absolute control over all. There will of course come a time when the Loyalists of the PARTY all have a UNION mark of allegiance on their foreheads of right hands in plane view to show everyone who they do support, but, here in America we really can't tell who is who for now.
This SIGN of allegiance will be the name of their leader, it will be kinda like the Green scarfs that Radicals now wear around their head or right arm giving praise to their god all through out the middle east and world wide in fact so others know who they are and what their for. GO GREEN, GO GREEN, GO GREEN!! Wonderful color that GREEN, SAVE THE EARTH COLOR, HUH?
Funny how when one really stops and looks at the spread of the Green Party Globally, it does not look like a Party of FREE CHOICE, but, more a Party of MANDITORY CHOICE for survival and sustaining life. So who is to blame for OUR woes? I would say ALL of us are to blame, those that push this Green Party, and those that stand by and allow it's spread, even to America, ALL OF AMERICA. Be sure and send in your $GREEN BUCKS$ to help spread the wealth. We are all in some major troubles no matter which party we belong to other than the GREEN PARTY, a party thats actually made up of all other parties, but, they hope you wont notice until it's too late to stop their DREAM. Get your FREE stuff while it lasts and hang on is all i can say.

Watchman on the Wall
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Watchman on the Wall 01/14/13 - 01:12 pm
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Democracy Revived

President Obama said today that if OUR Elected officials are affraid to raise the budget limits to prevent Global economic insecurity, that they all need to give him the POWER TO DO SO, & HE WOULD.OOPS! Would that not also increase Global Economic insecurities about our ability to pay our debt? WHY YES IT WOULD. Obama also said that he has the power to control guns with executive power as President if we don't agree with his gun control plans as well and his economic plans.
Now thats a GR8 idea of giving him ABSOLUTE CONTROL, SO HE CAN CONTROL ABSOLUTELY.
We ALL should be Watchmen on the Walls, looking out at whats going on at warp speed now for this Global Citizen President of OURS with his Entire Global Citizenry with no Soveriegn Free America.
We are about to see the Devil we allowed to rise to power and already starting to see his demented Power thirst grow obsolutely out of control. Hang on folks the Democratic Fun House Ride of Terror is about to escalate beyound any's ability to stop or control it.
We were WARNED, and are being WARNED daily.

Raoulduke
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Raoulduke 01/15/13 - 04:29 am
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What's happening

What has happened to the Democratic Party is from 2008-2012.Obama continued the policy of his predecessor.Now 2013 Obama has continued his predecessors agenda.What we now have is a 4th term president.There is no true distinction between the (unfortunately) 2 parties.We should have many political parties if we are a Democracy.That would prevent the monies being funneled to just a few candidates to be spread out more.Hopefully!Causing the bribes(campaign contributions) to be less.Wishful thinking

Raoulduke
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Raoulduke 01/15/13 - 07:41 am
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corporate infuence

Even Abraham Lincoln warned the country of the greater influence.The corporations are having on the political decision making.So! Acting surprised like these actions have just surfaced.Means you should have paid closer attention to your candidates.So! If 'Honest Abe'was telling the truth.This means.This country has been a bastion of hypocrisy for at least 150 years.Could generations have been duped?

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radiokenai 01/18/13 - 07:06 am
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Paul....
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Perhaps it is time for you to stop voting in the Communist Liberal Democrats that is driving our country into the ground...

I am glad you have opened your eyes, but there is so many more out there that vote for those idiots because they don't want to work and know that if they give away our rights, then they will be fed.

Make a stand...start by Joining the NRA and Vote against the liberal agenda whenever you can!

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