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Posted: September 4, 2013 - 8:45am  |  Updated: September 4, 2013 - 8:48am

Whether by design, neglect, or accident, the improper use, management, and/or disposal of deadly chemicals results in tragedy. Today, we hear of the tragedy that hundreds have been allegedly poisoned by the government of Syria. “But that’s more than 6,000 miles away,” you say. “Certainly the massacre of hundreds of men, women, and children in Syria by their own government has nothing to do with Alaska.” Oh, really?

Wait a minute ... If the waste material to be dumped by AIMM Technologies in my back yard isn’t dangerous, why not dump it in the sea? If it’s not dangerous, why the special precautions and all the talk of special impermeable membrane liners in the waste pit? Why all the reassurances that there is no real threat? Why are permits needed if there is no danger? Indeed, if this waste is as harmless and benign as the experts have decreed, why not just dump it on our gardens?

Folks, the danger of the waste to be dumped in Nikiski is really rather insignificant compared to the waste that has been dumped here over the past 50 years. Dangerous chemicals have already been found in our drinking water! One might ask “why then will more toxic waste be dumped?” The answer is that no one really takes the threat seriously enough to stop it. AIMM Technologies (a Texas Corporation) figures that since no one has objected in the past, there is no reason not to proceed. Will it take the poisoning of our children to prove that the State Department of Environment Conservation was wrong and that permits should not have been issued? Are we supposed to gamble with the health and lives of our own children? Is the State of Alaska willing to foot the bill for sickness, disease, and cancer that may likely result from the poisoning of our ground water? No, both the State and AIMM will walk away and deny any responsibility. They will say that harmless drilling waste had no impact on Nikiski’s ground water quality, and, even if it were dangerous, there’s so much poison in the water out there that no one will be able to finger us as the culprits.

But such an assumption is not only wrong, it is exceedingly dangerous. The level of carcinogenic (cancer causing) chemicals already in Nikiski’s ground water ought to alarm all those who draw their water from wells north of the refinery.

Because the State of Alaska has refused to protect us from further dumping of proven dangerous chemicals, it is thought that we don’t care. “Go ahead and dump,” they say ... “the folks in Nikiski are already doomed. The water out on the north end is already contaminated, another 10 million gallons of toxic waste will have little affect and even if they test the wells, they’ll never prove that AIMM’s dumping contributed to the danger?”

It may be a stretch to connect the Syrian government’s apparent use of chemical warfare against its own people with the State of Alaska’s willingness to dump poisonous chemicals in Nikiski, but I don’t see it that way. I see it as a grave insult to the protection we the people expect from our government.

AIMM: I know my ground water is poisoned. Your intent to endanger my grandchildren even more is unacceptable!

People of Nikiski: Please don’t let this happen.

 

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Norseman
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Norseman 09/04/13 - 06:15 pm
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Well norm I happen to agree

Well norm I happen to agree with you on this one. Our failure to protect our waters both above and below ground, will effect every us who are alive now and all future generations.

What is the recourse? The DEC has given the green light so what to do now?

Are you going to get the militia to stage a lockout of the site?

normolson
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normolson 09/04/13 - 08:56 pm
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Now I Hear That Poisoning Is Wide Spread

Today I learned that the DEC and the compliant Alaska Government has poisoned and is poisoning and has allowed poisoned land to be granted to Native Americans in Alaska!
What can be done? Good question.
If the people of Alaska don't speak out and rise up in defiance, not only will the native populations be unprotected but all of the rest of us also.

It's about time we start talking about Alaska's succession from those who have targetted us. Time to sever our ties with the federal central government. If we do not, the federal central government will continue what it intends to do.

Not only that, but the government of Alaska is willing to be the obedience compliant slave of the federal masters who own the plantation.

Where's the Governor? Where's Lisa? Where Don? Where is the protection? What good are these "representatives" who are willing to watch Alaska be whipped into obedience on the great Alaska Plantation?

Frankly, I'm tired of being a slave... I need someone in the
"government" to rise up and stand for the people.

I'm a whole lot angier than I can convey

normolson
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normolson 09/04/13 - 09:01 pm
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Militia's Intervention to the Nikiski Waste Site?

I don't think the militia will respond, but the residents of Nikiski may. They did so when the access to the beach was denied by the feds. I hope that there will be a few who will be willing to stand in the middle of road and deny the waste-ladened trucks access to their dump site.

We'll see.. My objective is to get community support.

Hope to see you at the Nikiski Council Meeting on the 9th of September at 7PM at the
Senior Center. Maybe we can get enough people worried, frightened, and involved.

Norm

normolson
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normolson 09/04/13 - 09:07 pm
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Anyone out there willing to stand against the poisoning?

I invite people from across Alaska and the Peninsula to come to the meeting at the Senior Center on Island Lake Road (just a mile off the Spur) on the 9th of September. We need people (not just the residents, but people who care about their own safety)... Perhaps Charlie's Pizza can bring a few pies over to the Senior Center on that night... We need people who are committed to saving their health. We need people dedicated to preserving the purity of our ground water. It is a travesty to allow AIMM to dump 10 million gallons of toxic waste inside the Nikiski neighborhood. It can be stopped.

It may take a human blockade... It may take more than that...

Please come to the Nikiski Council Meeting on 9 September at 7 PM at the Nikiski
Senior Center just a mile from the Spur on the Island Lake Road.

Tell the State of Alaska that they may THINK they are strong enough to poison us, but we have other options in mind.

Norm Olson

Norseman
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Norseman 09/06/13 - 07:22 am
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It is the old "not in my

It is the old "not in my backyard" mentality.
I'll bet if the first 10 truckloads of toxic waste was delivered and dumped by the CEO's place of residence they would rethink this. Or by the DEC's HQ.

What is a challenge is to find enough Nikiskites who are willing to do anything about this. Apathy towards this is appalling.

So as kids get leukemia and other cancers above the national rate, we can all just keep excusing the oil industry.
Meanwhile the richest corporations on earth can drink their imported bottled water and scoff at the rest of us who have to dink contaminated well water that resulted from their dumping of hazardous waste.

JohnPeterZenger
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JohnPeterZenger 09/06/13 - 11:46 am
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NIMBY?

Nikiski, as a rule, has long supported the election of politicians who have greenlighted, permitted and fast-tracked many of these kinds of highly polluting endeavors.

Where was their concern when the pollution was being dumped in someone else's backyard?

You didn't hear talk of any action until the waste got a little too close to home.

Votes have consequences, becoming concerned after the fact isn't any way to deal with the consequences of your vote.

Hazardous waste storage should be better regulated, there isn't any question of that.

But it's a little late to be complaining about the results of policies that have long been clearly evident and have long enjoyed political support. It's not like those policies haven't been known to be coming for a long long time. Maybe no one thought they'd come home to roost in their own backyard, but now it's a little late to claim outrage.

spwright
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spwright 09/06/13 - 03:11 pm
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Drink the Water

9/6/13 Do you want to Cut thru All of the B S & confront those polluting Alaska & Your Communitity ?

Challenge them to Drink the Water from Your very Own Kitchen Sink Faucet. That is the Moment of Truth & will provide immediate results. either that water is Toxic & Polluted or it's Safe & Clean to Drink.

SPW"Airborne"

JohnPeterZenger
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JohnPeterZenger 09/06/13 - 09:44 pm
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Nothing to 'cut through'

It is not now, (and it never has been) a question of 'if' pollution is safe, you should already know the answer to that question.

We have all the evidence anyone could need, history shows that if you create a hazardous waste dump, contamination is what eventually follows. Check the record, it's a given, it's a regular 'feature' of hazardous waste dumps.

If there's one thing some humans are good at, it's thinking or believing it can't happen here.

Time to be good at something else, something more realistic.

normolson
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normolson 09/06/13 - 10:29 pm
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Nikiski Property Values At Risk

Years ago there was a movie entitled "Erin Brockovich" about a woman who proved the extent of massive pollution in the ground water near Hinkley, CA.

What we have here in Nikiski may be very serious. Please come to the meeting Sept 9th to put forth a motion to test wells within the "plume" of past pollution dumping here in our area.

We "may" have a problem as big as the PG&E pollution in Hinkley. Even our elected officials are in the company of pollutors. You'll hear more if you come to the meeting.

We need EVERYONE in Nikiski to show up and to voice their outrage at the dumping that is planned, the secret dump sites from the 70s and 80s, and a plan to do something about the poison already in the groundwater.

The intent of AIMM to dump 10 million MORE gallons of waste is a side issue. I must not take place. But what about the chemicals already in the ground water.

My property is currently valued at a quarter million dollars. What if poison is found in my ground water? Should I risk the destruction of my property value by testing it?

What about 100s of other property owners who risk the loss of their property values?

Please come to the meeting on 9 Sept at the Senior Center in Nikiski.

Suss
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Suss 09/06/13 - 10:52 pm
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Risk?

"Should I risk the destruction of my property value by testing it?", maybe you should ask your children and grandchildren if the risk is worth their health.

spwright
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spwright 09/07/13 - 08:53 am
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Do You have the Proof ?

Sat. 9/7/13 Most Important Question :
Do You have the documented Proof that the Drinking Water in Nikiski is toxic & polluted ?

Rant & Rave all that You wish. No One is going to take you seriously until you can provide Proof that the Drinking Water is contaminated & toxic.

Drilling Test Wells is $expensive$ then go together as a Community & Pay for the Test Wells yourself then You will have the Proof You need.

Our elected Speaker of the House of Representatives lives in Nikiski. I would think that He would be all over this issue & find Funding to drill the Test Wells .

Documented Proof is needed. SPW"Airborne"

Norseman
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Norseman 09/07/13 - 09:13 am
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Nobody, and I mean nobody

Nobody, and I mean nobody wants either toxic waste dumps, drug dealers, or sex offenders in their neighborhoods.

Willowkasilof
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Willowkasilof 09/07/13 - 10:57 am
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I am in full agreement with

I am in full agreement with you Norm. I live in kasilof and probably won't be attending the meetings but if it comes to standing in front of those goofs with the waste, I will join. Playing by the rules of people who make their own rules is not a functional way to do things. Just because the process is streamlined and permitted doesn't mean that everyone should look the other way.

bob99507
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bob99507 09/07/13 - 03:22 pm
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Farmers in Oklahoma and Texas

Farmers in Oklahoma and Texas spread drilling mud on their crops its a great source of nitrogin.By the way back in the days of exploration on the north slope you could tell flying over where the old drill sites wer they were the ones that had stuff growing instead of tundra.

bob99507
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bob99507 09/07/13 - 03:24 pm
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In the article what deadly

In the article what deadly chemicals is the writer talking about

normolson
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normolson 09/07/13 - 07:30 pm
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Good Question: Is Ground Water already contaminated?

Come to the meeting on Monday evening at 7PM One of the motions will be to divert the $150,000 grant for community improvement to the objective of testing wells in the area of the suspected plume of contamination. The grant was given to Nikiski to build a new park on the bluff, but if ground water is contaminated the testing will once-and-for-all give evidence that our water is dangerously contaminated by chemicals buried 50 years ago. Please attend the meeting... There will be other secrets that will be exposed. Nikiski is a dangerous dumping site. How dangerous? Only well water testing will reveal the extent. The money has been allocated to Nikiski by state/federal grants to help the community. What better way than to test the wells.
But the old saying is pertitent: Don't ask the question if you can't stand the answer. Perhaps the big corporations and the people in leadership DON'T want the water to be tested.
There are politicians involved in covering up the violations of the past because they cannot survive the guilt. Come to the meeting!

JohnPeterZenger
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JohnPeterZenger 09/07/13 - 09:26 pm
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As an aside, I have to say

As an aside, I have to say it's hilarious to hear Norm speaking of the protections he expects the government to provide him.

He's fallen a long way from the days he was going to eliminate that pesky government altogether.

You can't mistake his message. Government is bad unless and until government can do something for him.

normolson
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normolson 09/10/13 - 08:31 pm
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I'm not off subject!

You just have no understanding of what I've tried to do for people who have been victimized by government agencies and corporations. You need to do your homework.

You, Mr. Zenger (where did you get that name) need to do your homework. When the ordinary citizen is being driven into the mud by corporations or governments, you can bet that I wil stand on YOUR SIDE.

You are ignorant. You need to do some homework. Trying looking the video on Youtube: Americas most dangerous militia. Indeed... It is dangerous because it attempt to protect you, YOU UNINFORMED CRITIC.

spwright
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spwright 09/10/13 - 11:07 pm
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Answers ?

Was the Most Important Question of All Answered ?

Is the Drinking Water in Nikiski contaminated & toxic ?

Will there be funding to provide Test Wells for Nikiski ?

Anyone have a answer ? SPW"Airborne"

bigtalkahh
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bigtalkahh 09/11/13 - 06:36 am
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Clean Water

Steve: the answer is... The groundwater and soils have been tested and are within acceptable levels for the installation of a waste holding site. Nothing will be dumped! Everything will be encapsulated and sealed in place. Waste will be placed in holding cells and will be monitored frequently. Nothing to fear but fear itself. The environmental professionals have it right. The fear mongers who are in line with Mr. Olson have it all wrong.

Willowkasilof
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Willowkasilof 09/11/13 - 07:59 am
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What sort of drilling does

What sort of drilling does aimm participate in? After looking around a bit online about drilling waste this is what I found-

"Wastes generated by the exploration, development, and production of crude oil and natural gas are “exempt” by Federal law from being regulated as hazardous waste.

The Solid Waste Disposal Act of 1980 prohibits EPA from regulating drilling fluids, produced water and other waste associated with the exploration, development or production of crude oil or natural gas as RCRA Subtitle C (hazardous waste.

Therefore, oil and gas wastes are referred to and regulated at the state level as “non-hazardous waste”Environmental Protection Agency Exempt
Oil and Gas Waste"

Just because oil and gas wastes are exempt from being regulated as hazardous waste, does not mean that the waste does not pose a hazard to workers and community members living in close proximity to the drilling, production and waste handling Wastewater known as produced water is generated as part of the natural gas production process and is contaminated with
volatile organic chemicals
toxic heavy metals
sulfur containing compounds
NORM - Radioactive Radium 226 and 228
salt water minerals

The volatile organic chemicals consist of Benzene a known human cancer causing agent and other organic chemicals (Toluene, Ethyl Benzene, Xylene) that are possible and probable human cancer causing agents and mutagens.

The toxic heavy metals consist of arsenic, barium, cadmium, chromium, lead, mercury, and vanadium which are known, possible and probable human cancer causing agents. "

Well I don't know about you, but the idea that our government has allowed for drilling wastes to be classified as a non hazardous material when they could contain all of those things above has me more than a bit scared. So fear mongering it is Mr/Mrs. Bigtalkahh. Aren't you scared? For our kids? I'm not much more than a kid and that rule has been in place since I was born. Are you gonna be a bully on the playground or stand up and do something for your kids and grandkids? What kind of toxic(though technically classified as no more harmful than koolaid) mess are they trying to create?

spwright
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spwright 09/11/13 - 10:20 am
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Video Proof

Wed 9/11/13 The most important issue for this day. "We Will Never Forget" Ask your Children What their School did in rememberence of 9/11 today?

Every time someone mentions the words Nikiski & Pollution I immediately think of the Video Proof that was provided. Butt Ugly 55 gallon drums of what appeared to be Crude Oil leaking onto the ground. Other drums of unknown fluids leaking onto the ground. Huge liquid plume & oil shine of multiple colors spreading out in every direction. That is physical Proof right before your eyes that toxic contamination has actually occured.

Bottom Line: The Residents of Nikiski have the Right to KNOW that their Drinking Water is Safe. Forget assigning Blame, that will come later. NOW is the time to Test the Water. That is the Most Important Issue that demands a Answer. SPW"Airborne"

JohnPeterZenger
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JohnPeterZenger 09/11/13 - 10:49 am
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Uninformed?

I'm not uninformed Norm,

....I just don't buy into the delusions you subscribe to.

JohnPeterZenger
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JohnPeterZenger 09/11/13 - 10:56 am
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bigtalkahh

a few phrases to parse

tested and within 'acceptable levels'

Who accepts these 'acceptable levels' and how much pollution is accepted?

Nothing will be dumped.

It can't happen here? You betcha.

Everything encapsulated and sealed in place.

The 'environmental professionals' said the same thing about Hanford, the Japanese nuke plant and Chernobyl.

Nothing to fear but fear itself? Wrong.

The thing to fear is people like bigtalkahh.

normolson
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normolson 09/12/13 - 09:11 pm
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The EPA looking good: For Minority Groups. Cover-up!

Letter to the editor

According to the US Environmental Protection Agency Office of Enforcement and Compliance Assurance (OECA), an Environmental Justice Small Grant has been given to the Seldovia Village Tribe to test water from wells. (http://www.epa.gov/environmentaljustice/resources/publications/grants/ej...)
Specifically, it states: “Seldovia Village Tribe, Seldovia, AK. The Seldovia Village Tribe Safe Drinking Water Project will address the need to test residential wells and local waterways for contaminants including arsenic, iron and lead to determine if levels surpass EPA standards and present a health risk to community members. These test results will be used by the tribe’s Environmental Office to evaluate the extent of health risks posed to the community through unsafe drinking water and to strategize cost efficient ways to minimize toxic exposure to community members.”
The people of Nikiski live on top of a an aquifer that has been contaminated by decades of unregulated dumping of chemical waste. As of this date, no request has been made to the EPA to test the wells north of the refinery.
One begins to wonder if we Alaskans, who happen to be non-native, are simply ignored so that the federal central government can look good throwing money at native groups.
One beings to wonder also as to what advantage representative government is when it fails to protect the people who voted it into office?

Norm Olson, Nikiski

JohnPeterZenger
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JohnPeterZenger 09/12/13 - 10:25 pm
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Off base again, norm

Cover up? Get a grip on your tin foil blinders.

Because one, several or all native villages may have applied for and received a grant to help test their water isn't an excuse for you to claim you 'non-natives' are ignored or slighted in any way.

You non-natives, as you call yourselves, might be, (or likely are), ignorant of the process necessary to apply for and receive a grant, and you certainly are negligent in not informing yourself comprehensively about such processes, but your being inept or inattentive doesn't give you the right to attempt to cast aspersions on a whole class of people, that's what's known as textbook racism.

Nor does your own ineptitude and inattentiveness give you cause to question representative government. That false equivalence is nothing more than a figment of your own misapprehension.

No wonder Michigan showed you the door. It's no wonder people cringe when you attempt to 'attach' yourself to real life concerns, you're bound to make things more difficult than they need be. You're likely to attempt to heedlessly inject your own bias and paranoia into the mix.

You want to help your neighbors? Quit your grandstanding. It's not about you or your crazed militia mindset.

spwright
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spwright 09/12/13 - 11:25 pm
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Mr Arness 9/12/13

Thur 9/12/12 Mr James Arness from Nikiski was on KSRM Radio 92 Sound Off today. He made some very convincing statements that the Drinking Water has been Tested & is SAFE to drink. He had documented Proof of these statements. Mr Arness has already established a reputation for being a Man of Integrity & trustworthy.

I think that puts this issue to bed & time to Move On.

SPW "Airborne"

JohnPeterZenger
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JohnPeterZenger 09/13/13 - 08:49 am
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What? Sound Off?

I refer you to spwright's posting on the 11th of this month.

He clearly claims 'proof' of hazardous pollution.

Now, two days later, he claims he overheard some talk a year ago which is supposed to 'prove' exactly the opposite of what he just claimed.

Let me get this straight, purely anecdotal information heard on Sound Off can be considered definitive proof? In what world?

You suddenly remember you heard something a year ago on Sound Off and that cancels out your video proof?

Issue closed? Move on?

I've heard a lot of things on Sound Off, if you're basing decisions on what you hear on Sound Off you're in for a big surprise.

No one man has been in any position to be able to certify there has been no pollution. Of the many sites where hazardous materials have been present, one man simply wouldn't be able to know about the activities on all of those sites unless you're giving that man comic book superpowers.

spwright
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spwright 09/13/13 - 09:07 am
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Documented Proof

9/13/13 JPZ, When a Man of Integrity gives His Word as Truth & has documented Test Results in his hand & stated in public that He would Drink the Water. Along with spending over $20,000 of his own money for the Test Well.

What the Hell more do you want from this man ? He has proven himself over & over again. Case Closed

I am speaking of Mr Arness & his testimony on Sound Off yesterday Thur . 9/12/2013

SPW "Airborne"

JohnPeterZenger
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JohnPeterZenger 09/14/13 - 01:04 am
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Nope, sorry, ...case not closed.

You're seemingly still not grasping the whole picture.

The entirety of the situation doesn't turn on any one man's anecdotal testimony.

Any one man, no matter how much you may admire him, cannot have knowledge of all the different sites where hazardous waste was handled.

He might have knowledge of one site, not all the possible sites.

It's not a difficult concept to grasp. There's more possible sources.

He can only speak of what is limited by what he witnessed.

I don't want or need anything from this man, I didn't question what he said, I pointed out that he wasn't everywhere at once. All the possible sources of pollution don't start and stop with this one man.

What he talks about only goes as far as his own personal knowledge, and like I said, he wasn't everywhere at once, and cannot possibly state that there was no pollution in places he was never present.

He has not tested every possible source of contamination.

You think there's only one possible source for contamination?

Several decades of military and industrial activity in hundreds of separate sites, but 'case closed' because one man said he will drink some water, because he says he tested one source point?

If that one source point is clean, good deal. That doesn't mean all the other possible sites should also be summarily given a pass.

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