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What happened to religious freedom?

Posted: January 10, 2014 - 9:55am

I received an email from the National Headquarters of The American Legion today, the day after Christmas. It states that the Dallas VA Medical Center denied school children the distribution of handmade Christmas cards to veteran patients because the cards referenced the holiday by name — Christmas.

The email further states that the VA Hospital in Augusta Georgia turned away school kids that came to sing Christmas carols as they have done the past couple of years. When the kids walked in, the VA gave them a list of songs that were permissible to sing, presumably non-secular.

And in Iowa City, American Legion members were told they couldn’t hand out gifts to veterans if the wrapping paper said Merry Christmas.

It seems to me that one of the driving reasons for the colonies break away from England was to pursue religious freedom.

Better watch out for what comes next. The law may forbid the display of the nativity scene in your front yard. Ludicrous!

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leewaytooo
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leewaytooo 01/11/14 - 05:05 am
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freedom from religion is as

freedom from religion is as equal as freedom of religion...

I or someone may very well prefer not to be subjected

to someone else's religious beliefs......

what you do in your front yard is your business.....

once you venture off that property you do not get

to cry "religious freedom" as an excuse to subject

anyone to your religious beliefs....

herbtr
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herbtr 01/11/14 - 12:48 pm
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Amendment 1 to the US Constitution

Freedom of Speech, Press, Religion and Petition

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Actually pretty simple reading.

Where does it say "in my front yard"?

Raoulduke
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Raoulduke 01/12/14 - 03:56 am
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Freedom of ?

Congress should make no law RESPECTING an establishment of religion.I personally do not care to be preached to in an airport,grocery store ,or wherever .Then MY first amendment is being denied(Freedom of) by some crazed zealot.This government does not recognize any ONE single religion.This is your freedom of religion. People can practice at any place of WORSHIP,but badgering in public the unsuspecting.I think not.I have a right to go to a weekend Fair,and not be woken by preaching from the band stand.

kearbear
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kearbear 01/12/14 - 07:08 am
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"or prohibiting the free

"or prohibiting the free exercise thereof" People in America are free to practice, preach, speak, demonstrate, appeal, for their religious beliefs. They can scream it from the mountaintops. Others, on the other hand are free to not listen. " Exercise" does not mean restricted to the gym. Religious people may exercise to their heart's content anywhere they choose. At work, at school, at the beach. Prohibiting their rights is a grievous violation of the Constitution.

Suss
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Suss 01/12/14 - 10:07 am
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"Preachers"

There are plenty of mentally ill "Preachers" that are in jail for preaching anywhere and anytime they felt the urge. No one has the right to accost and disturb anyone in the name of their lord. So when screaming from the mountaintops, please make sure that you are not disturbed enough to be disturbing the peace of others.

Suss
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Suss 01/14/14 - 08:43 am
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How Christian of you Mr. Chamberlain

Does your faith hold elections often, or is this an informal gathering with pizza and polluted water? Seriously, I believe in believers believing in whatever they may choose to believe in. Forcing and accosting those beliefs on others is where I find the problem and so does society. That is why there are laws to prevent the unwanted harassment by those trying to force their belief on others. Not everyone eats the pizza and drinks the same koolaid, so forcing the hard, loud sell on anyone that is objecting is very offensive. I really doubt that I will see you at my church. Have a blessed day and save your vote for your own eligible members, I don't qualify for your group.

cormit
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cormit 01/14/14 - 08:24 am
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e-mail

The e-mail you received citing these examples of religious intolerance are likely bogus anyway ....... like most of the sensational carefully crafted and mostly made up stories that usually include military vets and children. Trying to confirm whether or not these things ever happened or not often takes too much time ........ so the recipients just accept them to be true ..... and then passes them around instead of deleting them. What a waste of time and energy.

Steven Chamberlain
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Steven Chamberlain 01/14/14 - 09:50 am
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Suss

Suss, you are a fool. To sell you a piece of pizza would be like selling my soul to the Devil. No Pizza for you FOOL. Go, Tell it on the Mountain.

Suss
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Suss 01/14/14 - 12:25 pm
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Pizza, you want pizza?

Never would have considered having a meal at that DEC rated neighborhood eatery after I had read your pizza's reviews. I have read your rants about your polluted property concerns, along with your advice to "Stoners". Thank you for not selling pizza to those of us that are concerned about their and their families health. Again, have a blessed day. Do you serve pastafarians?

“Our pasta, who art in a colander, draining be your noodles. Thy noodle come, Thy sauce be yum, on top some grated Parmesan. Give us this day, our garlic bread, …and forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trample on our lawns. And lead us not into vegetarianism, but deliver us some pizza, for thine is the meatball, the noodle, and the sauce, forever and ever. RAmen.”

cormit
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cormit 01/14/14 - 09:03 pm
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Suss

That was such a terrific come back Suss ...... just don't think there is much more that needs to be said.

Steven Chamberlain
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Steven Chamberlain 01/15/14 - 01:45 am
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Suss

You must generally be a receiver of charity, not a giver. Maybe if you gave a little more your heart would grow and you won't be such a Grinch.

leewaytooo
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leewaytooo 01/15/14 - 04:18 am
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too funny

too funny suss.............

it has been said that religion's origins began with women

and "superstitions" ........ when men found out how

much power these "superstitious" beliefs held over the

people, they took them over.......and it evolved into

"organized religion" and eventually the women

that continued to practice their "superstitious" beliefs were to

be labeled "witches"...... I do not know if this is true, for I

was not there,

then........

Raoulduke
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Raoulduke 01/20/14 - 04:29 am
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What happened ?

If you think there is a loss of religious freedom.Just turn on any television,and you can on a daily 24/7. Watch at least 6 Televangelist worship shows.So where is a lack of religious freedom?

radiokenai
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radiokenai 01/21/14 - 10:10 am
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WOW....
Unpublished

Leeway: Dude, you need to take a Government class who is taught by a Conservative! I shake my head in disbelief how liberals (such as yourself and barack) try to BEND and ADD words to the Constitution that are not written! But, since you can't research, I thought I'd help:

First Amendment: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

Now, you tell me where it says "freedom from religion is as equal as freedom of religion..."?

What is says is that Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof....

In other words leeway, it says JUST THE OPPOSITE of what you think it says! In fact, it CLEARLY states that that Congress shall not prohibit the free exercise thereof! So if you don't want to listen to a Christian Preacher..walk away! Go listed to a Satanic Worshiper for all I care! It is YOUR right to leave, as much as it is a Preachers right to talk!

To answer the question posed by the Author of Opinion: The answer is simple, people like Leeway, have elected a muslim for president (who lied about being a Christian to get elected). Baracks religion states that if you are not of his muslim faith, then you are an infidel and should be killed. All religions and faiths (Christian, Baptist, Mormon, Buddhist whatever) are in his direct line of site. He has Hollywood, other muslims as well as the homosexuals, who are targeting all religions who don't accept their immorality.

Many will be deceived by false prophets...

"Yes, I believe I read that somewhere, perhaps Mathew 24:11 from THE HOLY BIBLE?"

radiokenai
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radiokenai 01/21/14 - 10:13 am
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Helpful Tip....
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To all the clicks who are perpetuating the War against Christians....

"God is watching...and we all have to answer to him one day"

Sucks being you!

radiokenai
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radiokenai 01/21/14 - 10:25 am
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To Cormit....
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Do you always run on assumptions? I also read the article, as well as called the VA Hospital in question...and I can tell you with FACT that this really happened. Time to wake up and smell the coffee!

kenai123
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kenai123 01/22/14 - 01:23 am
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leewaytooo you are incorrect...

Freedom of Religion is just that, you may practice WHATEVER religion you like and where ever you like in public areas. Freedom of Religion does NOT mean that you can go anywhere in public and only hear your "beautiful silence".

"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances."

Some folks actually establish their religion by screaming it at you while you go to the movies... The U.S. Constitution guarantees that these screamers cannot be prevented from bugging you. If you don't like it, you should not be living in the U.S.. Try moving to Russia or China, I will guarantee you that you will not hear the screaming there. The only screaming you will hear there will be coming out of your own mouth...

Raoulduke
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Raoulduke 01/22/14 - 08:47 am
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A NUISANCE

So! I may stand in front of your home from 6am to 10pm,and howl out Krishna towards your front door.I can even use a loud speaker.I would still be within my rights. Right? I would not be considered a public nuisance.While practicing my 1st Amendment? Would I? Well! The SCREAMERS are just that- A NUISANCE!

Suss
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Suss 01/22/14 - 09:38 am
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Lost Civics Lessons

Nowhere, no how can you practice Kenai123's instructive interperations of his understanding of how free speech works. Trying to start a silly idea that one can yell their way to their desired goal is foolish and even a two year old learns the rules about public and private tantrums. I doubt that Kenai123 practices this form and function of religious promotion.

TheKenaiKid
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TheKenaiKid 01/22/14 - 02:35 pm
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Clarification

First, nobody is being denied the right to give Christmas cards to veterans. This story has been perverted and spun to fit people's preexisting beliefs on the issue. Rather, the VA has longstanding policies on these issues, and you look further into the story you'll find it's common for them to deny unsolicited religious messages from entering their facilities. How would you feel if you were a wounded Jewish soldier who had to be "cheered up" by well-meaning carolers singing about Jesus? Or an atheist or Sikh or Muslim for that matter? The reason the carolers aren't let in is because some people don't want to be forced to listen to religious messages; and because of our fine U.S. Constitution, those people have that right.

What Mr. Hill (along with everyone else using this issue to claim religious persecution) fails to understand is that nobody is trying to deny you your right to practice whatever belief system you want. Just don't try to push your ideology down other people's throats.

People came to this country because they wanted to worship or not worship however they wanted. That explicitly means we have the right not to be subjected to religious messages in government-run institutions.

Steven Chamberlain
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Steven Chamberlain 01/28/14 - 01:02 am
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Shut up Suss!

Shut up Suss!

Steven Chamberlain
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Steven Chamberlain 01/28/14 - 01:37 am
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Kenai123

I'm with you Kenai123.

Suss
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Suss 01/28/14 - 07:11 am
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No thanks, No Pizza

No thank you, you have "voted" I go to hell, "refused me service" of imaginary food I would not eat and now you request I "shut up". No,I think your attempts at bullying are failing, aside from being immature your comments and tactics are very unchristian-like. Unlikely as it seems your opinion and how it is delivered should not be greasy and cold like someone's pizza. Please do continue with your "Fox News" approach to balanced messages and meals.

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