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Monitoring needed to guarantee safety

Posted: January 28, 2014 - 8:27am

Regarding the article “DEC says Alaska fish are safe to eat” (Clarion, Jan. 24):

Let me see, is that the same Department of Environmental Conservation that says the toxic monofill in Nikiski is safe and that the injection of poisonous drilling waste into wells below Soldotna and surrounding areas is safe?

The first paragraph of the article strikes a blow to DEC’s responsible monitoring when it declares that the DEC “isn’t actively testing fish for radiation” and then goes on to say, “We try to test for things that we think present real risk, like mercury.” And then, as if they know, the FDA and EPA says their monitoring shows no dangerous level of radiation in Pacific fish.

Now, I’ll admit I’m not the brightest bulb in the box, but even I can see the fallacies in the article. If DEC isn’t actively testing for radiation, how can it say that there isn’t a threat? Also, just what is a “dangerous level” when there is no safe level when it comes to radiation?

And the greatest fallacy of all is the notion that current levels will not change. The EPA, FDA, and DEC all state that there is no threat. Now, that may be somewhat true for today at least, but where’s consistent monitoring and reporting by non-federal/non-state agencies?

Visit www.enenews.com and see what other scientists are saying. In the midst of this growing threat (400 tons of dangerous radiation is being dumped into the Pacific every day), we should see, at least weekly, the results of extensive monitoring in Alaska’s coastal waters. But, since no extensive monitoring is even taking place, how then can any “expert” proclaim that no threat exists?

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Suss
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Suss 01/28/14 - 12:04 pm
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Test your sources before raising concerns

DEC results for North Road site
http://dec.alaska.gov/spar/csp/sites/arness_septage.htm

Test your sources, then test your fish.
More Truth about Fish
This is silly that if certain people do not get their way with DEC they attack Alaskan salmon. Please do your own research and stop the misinformed.

http://deepseanews.com/2014/01/all-the-best-scientifically-verified-info...

kksalm
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kksalm 01/28/14 - 10:13 pm
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Fukushima radiation in our fish is a concern

At the Alaska Federation of Natives recent meeting in Fairbanks, 2013, monitoring salmon in regards to Fukushima radiation contamination was addressed as needing to be monitored.
Thank you Norm for voicing your opinion that all is not well with the agencies that are supposed to look out for our welfare.
The disaster in Fukushima is a glaring example of what's wrong with the world's politics right now. Why are all the able governments of the worlds not banding together to stem the flow of the continuing contamination of our oceans due to the breach at Fukushima? It is a breach that has not been contained to this day.
As for testing what we eat from the waters that come our way from Japan, what's wrong with a little precaution?

Peace, out.

Steven Chamberlain
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Steven Chamberlain 02/03/14 - 08:48 am
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Don't Trust the D.E.C.

Larry Hartig is a protector of polluters and a Master of puppets. The only way to know the truth is through independent testing. Same thing with your well water in Nikiski. Don't trust these fools.
Fukashima is real and there is no end in sight. By the way you can't smell, taste, see or feel radiation. You just get cancer and die. Your Government is out of control !!!

Oh, Before you open your mouth and defame my character or slander my business. Shut up Suss! You too Leeway!

Suss
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Suss 01/29/14 - 07:20 am
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Real Science, Real Truth

Radiation testing has been done.
Testing of seafood has been done folks. Please rely on real science not fear or hate mongers. The radiation levels of the fish tested was at the level of 5% of what a banana would read.
America and other countries have set off many nuclear bombs in and around the Pacific Ocean and the background levels have been tested and known for decades, and they are still studied.

http://www.whoi.edu/page.do?pid=83397&tid=3622&cid=94989.

http://www.latimes.com/food/dailydish/la-dd-seafood-radiation-20130903,0...

http://www.whoi.edu/page.do?pid=83397&tid=3622&cid=94989.

http://www.whoi.edu/oceanus/feature/tale-of-the-tuna

normolson
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normolson 02/01/14 - 12:04 am
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Suss

"Radiation testing has been done." Ahhh, not good enough. Fukushima is leaking more than 400 tons of irradiated waste water into the Pacific every day, day after day, for years already and years to come. Your argument doesn't address the present and future rates of contamination reaching our shores. You really need to understand that the danger continues and cannot be stopped. Past single events can be measured since they do not continue. Fukushima's nightmare continues and grows. Radiation needs to be monitored by NON government agencies not connected to special interest groups in the seafood industry.

Keep an eye on www.netc.com and continue to monitor
www.enenews.com

Norm

Suss
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Suss 02/01/14 - 11:17 am
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Diluted Results

Your enews source has conflicting reports. Yes monitoring the ocean, yes monitoring the seafood is most called for. The trouble with results from paid studies is the obvious concern of bias. Trust the government? Trust the hired consultant? There is a very large, ginormous amount of water in the Pacific that may help dilute everyone's concerns.

This is a starting point to discussing the global concern.
http://realitysandwich.com/215777/an-overview-of-fukushima-and-a-call-fo...

Q: So we shouldn’t be concerned about the fish we eat from the Pacific Ocean?

Buesseler: Right now, from what I’ve seen there are no levels of concern and that doesn’t mean we shouldn’t be looking for that. The story has been changing for these two years from a large release of cesium isotopes to a potential release of strontium 90 [...] one lesson that is very clear here is that there is a connection about what’s happening on land with the groundwater near Fukushima and the ocean and that harbor. There is a direct exchange that can’t be changed and can’t be stopped.[...]

Q: What would you tell the public right now, is there a concern for our health given the Fukushima fallout?

Buesseler: With current conditions I’d say go swimming, go boating and eat the fish in the Pacific Ocean. I don’t have concerns. But they still need to be monitored. They’ve been going up for two years now. We’re expecting these levels to increase, but I’m also concerned there’s not support to do these types of analyses [...]

http://enenews.com/expert-it-cant-be-changed-and-cant-be-stopped-contami...

RaySouthwell
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RaySouthwell 02/01/14 - 12:40 pm
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The perfect economic storm

I am undecided on whether to be concerned about salmon radiation contamination. At my age radiation exposure is of little concern. What I wonder about is how the world will look at Alaskan Salmon?

It is my understanding after the Exxon Valdez episode, Alaskan salmon prices collapsed. The world feared all salmon from Alaska's waters. It did not matter whether they were expose to oil or not. What mattered was the worlds perception. Without constant testing the world will reject the safety of Alaskan salmon.

One leg of Alaska’s economic storm.

Another leg of the storm is the federal deficit. 1/3 of all Alaskan jobs are federal related. The feds are cutting back. Alaska will feel the loss.

And the final leg of the perfect economic storm is big oil. They are in control of our resources. They will dictate the terms on releasing the oil/gas. It will impact the environment and income for Alaska. The end result will be increasing taxes on all Alaskan’s to clean up messes and supplement the lost income to the State.

There is another choice. Establish a public Bank of Alaska. Take control of credit creation and do the testing of the fish, help finance companies willing to work under Alaska’s environmental laws and finance building infrastructure to advance the productivity of all Alaskans. We need more legs to support Alaska's economy. Three are not enough.

Suss
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Suss 02/03/14 - 09:23 am
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Our Salmon, Evidence based reasoning only.

steven chamberlain has no reason to disparage Alaska Salmon!

There are ways to test for radiation that are as simple as an attachment to your IPhone. No one has reported our Alaska salmon is to be a food source to be concerned about. Calling someone a liar and other foul names because you do not like the results of their report is churlish and unchristian-like. Any attacks on Alaskan salmon had better be proven and documented, many Alaskan families rely on fishing to survive. If anyone has proof to bring forth, please do. To blame the fish for some perceived concern without documented and verifiable evidence is not worthy of any consideration.

leewaytooo
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leewaytooo 02/03/14 - 03:35 am
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chicken little's cousins are

chicken little's cousins are at it again..... the bed bug and

the psychotic are once again jumping on that imaginary

band wagon in order to further their political agenda.....

namely that "they" are out there and "they" are out to

get everyone that is not "they".....

nothing like starting a potential mud slide of rejection...

still, that is what the psychotic and it's bed bug like to do....

complain about everything and talk about nothing......

[filtered word] the party of PORK .....and beans for everyone else..

RaySouthwell
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RaySouthwell 02/03/14 - 11:52 am
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Lewaytoooo

As usual nothing changes for you. If a tree falls in the woods and you did not hear it, it made no noise.

Here is a link to better understand Alaska’s economy. Not my site. http://www.alaskaseconomy.org/

We know, as fact, why the legislators want to change our environmental laws. To attract money for investments. HR 77 has been presented to do just that.

And then there is SB21. Oil companies did not like there tax structure in Alaska and started to move out. Fear of losing money our legislators passed SB21. Now it appears big oil is moving back in. That is, unless we the voters, pass the repeal initiative in August.

But back to Alaska testing of fish for radiation. Where will the money come from for testing? The feds. What is another few million added to the national debt.

North Dakota’s public Bank of North Dakota made $30 million in profits last year. No big bonuses paid to those running the bank. If Alaska had a public Bank of Alaska we could use some of our profits to do as UAF researcher Douglas Dasher suggests, testing. http://www.adn.com/2013/11/06/3162334/uaf-researcher-concerned-about.html

All these issues revolve around money. Alaska has over $56 Billion being used by others to make money. If we established a public Bank of Alaska we could take a portion of this money and create credit to do what we are begging others to do. Test our fish, Build infrastructure and choose the environmental laws that best serve all Alaskans.

kksalm
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kksalm 02/13/14 - 10:59 pm
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Suss
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Suss 02/14/14 - 06:07 am
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Test Source, then Fish

Has any credible person or entity found a radiation concern with Alaskan seafood? No they have not. Please do check and double check for factual reports.

http://deepseanews.com/2014/01/all-the-best-scientifically-verified-info....

http://apps.who.int/iris/bitstream/10665/78373/1/WHO_HSE_PHE_2013.1_eng.pdf

kksalm
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kksalm 03/27/14 - 08:59 pm
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Still see a need to monitor

I don't see how this can be ignored
http://www.sott.net/article/276395-School-science-project-reveals-high-l...
I know this article will bring the comment "consider the source" but nonetheless, there are some compelling subjects to be considered.
Have a nice day

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